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Yeah, you can talk to him.

I'll get this back.

Please.

Tommy, what is this?

What you do is simply go visit a campsite, look at the lake, and I want you to know, sir, you do not obtain anything out of that.

You're all alone.

You've got a cabinet all to yourself.

You and Julie live in a very nice house currently, and it's isolated from the other area, and that's it.

And you have lots of time to see all that out there.

It's a remarkable government.

But it's your cell phone.

I don't want to say that.

You're going to say it in 40 seconds, is it?

I don't think you should.

I'm not going to prefer it.

You shouldn't use the numbers anyway.

But I want them.

I want them.

That's the way you get them all done.

I've been through them all.

Oh, at least it was on Italian.

Because, you know, they were talking about speaking for 10 minutes.

And I've been in them all before the collection.

I didn't get confirmed in all the parts I've been sawed here on it.

George Hill.

I've been in Louisiana.

Mississippi.

They may not be counting like Massachusetts and Rhode Island.

Rhode Island, I would think they would have counted.

I can see why they might not count Massachusetts.

I'll turn it up because our trip models are more down to just those.

It's on down here.

This is Munster, South Dakota, isn't it?

Oh, yeah, the college library.

Library.

General Eagle College.

We've done Minnesota, Wisconsin.

Yeah, this is in the campaign.

Green Bank.

That's right.

We've got a town for a holiday to keep this true, but... Go ahead.

We've got some possible events in the next three weeks to keep the momentum here.

We've got to remember to revive it again.

Your point is to make speeches.

Our people have got to say, we're fighting the plague.

Because if you get all this boost now, then if you get a recharge on it, the Congress comes back because it'll get a whole new thing.

It's a congressional thing.

It starts going again.

The market at 230 was up 10 points.

It started at 899.

It may bust to 900.

It's, uh, it's picking up steam through the day rather than losing it, so.

Yeah.

It's amazing.

Oh, boy.

I think it smells like a specialist in the lab.

See, somebody had this smell.

The content of it was that negative.

It really wasn't.

It was a question about media attack, violent proportions.

Well, I think it really was.

So what he did is launch a media attack back the other way, really.

I really think that's it.

It's the media, isn't it?

I don't have anybody, but I agree with the editor now, and I have to do so much of it myself.

You gotta find one guy.

I don't really want him to come back.

Because this guy right here, I think he may be a, what we call a speech giver, rather than a speech writer, the guy.

Okay.

Come on.

Come on, let's talk before the meeting, before 11.

Yeah, I understand what that was like.

I'll have to get a lot of firecrackers to do the reading.

Well, they agreed to the signing date of the, I don't know if I should ever worry about it.

to work it out.

On the summit, he says he's got to go back.

He looked at the draft, and he said that looks fine to him.

But he isn't authorized to agree to it.

But he thinks there's no problem.

We'll never get credit for it, but this is significant.

Oh, yeah, he's in good form.

Oh, he's a good man.

in a big way when he moved.

I said, yes, in everything.

I said, it's dangerous to crowd him.

And I think that's the lesson.

There's still a lot of people on the door from this.

I don't know.

I think it's true.

But what that meant to me, Rockefeller was almost beside himself.

Well, he could be more honest with me than with you.

Anyway, it's... all he said is a revolution.

and the rest.

But on the other hand, what I think will save us is that the economy, even if we haven't done this, is going to move.

But we have to get the country to need a psychological lift that free living gets done.

This is more psychology.

The country needs a psychological lift.

This gives them a psychological lift.

Every day is one of the icing on the cake.

It doesn't matter when we get it.

It's time that they got here.

The media has just really, I guess, been thinking about what they put us through.

They put this country through, not only through our communities, but through the last couple of years of Johnson.

But they've already done that.

These young kids and the rest, that's why the kids have gone bad.

It's absolutely unconscionable.

And one could see that they were trying to say,

The minute you took that away from them, they shifted to the economy.

They were weeks when you didn't hear about the economy.

Suddenly, they started this.

Now they've lost the economy.

They'd rather go back to foreign policy, for at least.

Then we'll put them between the eyes again.

Oh, uh, that stuff.

What was the date of the victory?

May 22nd.

They won't go around with you again, Mr. President.

They didn't announce it on September 15th.

Well, it's like I gave them an extra day, 50 per 60.

If you let me give them another day, you'll have to decide on the 22nd, and I'll give you a choice.

Well, then you should do research, and it's a good day.

Yeah, he said, why don't you set a date with China?

I said, well, he was relaxed.

He said, are they making demands?

I knew they always make demands.

And I said, no, it's a very satisfactory relationship.

And he said, you know, we want you to know we're trying to restrain the Indians.

That's a good thing.

I don't think he wants to tie himself to those.

to discuss China and Peking, India and Peking.

I said, look, I won't go into what I discussed in Peking, but we have our own fish to drive in Peking.

That's true.

Well, what other plans now?

Are you going to go to California and stay?

No, no.

again on September 13th.

I don't expect much to happen until the election.

I won't go.

Well, it was a close call.

The reason I

We had offered them eight points and hit them.

If they don't attack, then we have got through the Vietnamese election campaign without being hit, without them to be affected.

And I have to go anyway to set up my trip and to get the details begun for you.

So for all these reasons, it's a close decision, though.

I will not go again after that.

It has one advantage.

If we go on the 11th or 13th, I get these two alternates.

It has, it has, and then we don't settle it, which I don't think we will.

Then on the 15th and 16th, they get hit with a Russian announcement.

That can be a real show to them.

Awesome.

He said to me it will make a settlement more slow, but more sure.

And he's absolutely right.

I think part of their stalling is to show us that they were not pressured into it by the Chinese.

What they will see, Mr. President, is that their two big allies are dealing with us before the war in Vietnam is ended.

is to make sure that they don't screw it all up because they obviously have their own fish to fry.

So even if the Soviet Union doesn't do anything, it brings direct pressure.

The mere fact that they are seeing you, that they're pushing you, pushing them on page 50 again for a month or two while people are yakking them, I should be changing this again.

We've got them off the front pages, no matter what happens, until the middle of November.

I asked them for their address, I think, probably early in October.

What do you say?

Anything we say, they'll do.

End of September.

Announce the Russian summit and then two weeks later announce the Japanese summit.

That would make it about September 29th.

Yeah, September 30th.

Well, September 30th we had the accidental war signing.

Oh, I see.

Well, then... Well, my good man, it isn't all that important.

We could announce it September 20th.

Yeah, I'd say September 20th.

Go a week after the Russian thing.

A little bit later, the other Russians will leave.

No, Bill, he's got to deal with us.

I mean, he's got to deal with us for a while now.

You know, these Democrats haven't had enough sauce in a bad way, too.

I mean, despite their heartache and the old hungry and the now hungry's battle, a little bit, Muskie and Teddy haven't said a word about this economic.

I mean, here's the biggest economic story in 30 years.

In fact, it's taken two days.

which I think will get the news, isn't it?

Big news, man, who gets it done.

You know, why didn't he get it?

Why does he get off on the Viagra kick and not this kick?

What gets into him?

He is outdated, Mr. President.

I don't think that's the matter anymore.

I think, but if you manage to think...

I mean, we are really within sight now.

If I were in Hanoi, I just wouldn't... First of all, we've made Vietnam a small country in Asia.

foreign policy Johnson had, and therefore the slightest twitch was a headline.

I mean, now if they start twitching and screwing up the peace trips of a president, what can they do?

I mean, supposing they start an attack while you're preparing to go to Peking, which would be the 10th period.

I wouldn't bet that the American public would turn against you.

They might do it against Sam at that point.