{"conversationCode":"568-005","tapeNumber":568,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-568-005","startDateTime":"1971-09-09T19:34:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-09T19:38:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Sep-1971","startTime":"3:34 PM","endDate":"9-Sep-1971","endTime":"3:38 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:34 pm and 3:38 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 568-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 568-5\n\nDate: September 9, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 3:34 pm and 3:38 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Swearing-in ceremony\n\n     Press\n             -Location in Oval Office\n             -Photographs\n             -Signal\n                  -Exit\n\n     Remarks\n\n     Swearing-in ceremony\n         -Ezra Solomon\n         -Judge Charles R. Richey\n         -Bibles\n         -Frank C. Carlucci, III\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 3:38 pm.","filename":["568-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:40:29","tapeEnd":"00:41:52","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"568-004","nextCode":"568-006","transcript":[{"start":1.04,"end":18.81,"text":"We don't have any, oh Christ, why does there have to be the press?"},{"start":19.13,"end":20.69,"text":"The press has to be right here."},{"start":20.71,"end":25.16,"text":"We'll just take a photograph as soon as the hand goes down, the press will leave, sir."},{"start":25.18,"end":25.58,"text":"No remarks expected."},{"start":25.6,"end":27,"text":"Sorry, I probably should, well, that's not how we're marked, I'm sure."},{"start":27.02,"end":27.26,"text":"Well, I see."},{"start":27.28,"end":29.68,"text":"Well, we're going to have to, we're going to have to, we're just going to have to solve it."},{"start":30.19,"end":42.23,"text":"All right."},{"start":42.25,"end":47.3,"text":"You might have to decide if I listen to that or not."},{"start":47.33,"end":47.67,"text":"Do they watch me?"},{"start":47.69,"end":48.35,"text":"That's what everyone says to me."},{"start":50,"end":56.67,"text":"Well, sir, we've discussed it, and since you ordered it, it's perfect."},{"start":56.97,"end":57.43,"text":"You've got two bottles."},{"start":57.45,"end":57.93,"text":"This is one of the work."},{"start":57.95,"end":62.46,"text":"What's the cartilage now?"},{"start":62.92,"end":64.2,"text":"Cartilage and, uh, Frank?"},{"start":64.22,"end":64.56,"text":"Cartilage."},{"start":65.22,"end":65.42,"text":"Cartilage."},{"start":65.44,"end":67.24,"text":"All right."},{"start":67.26,"end":67.7,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to coordinate the logistics for an upcoming swearing-in ceremony involving Ezra Solomon and Judge Charles R. Richey. The discussion focused on managing press presence within the Oval Office, specifically ensuring photographers would depart immediately following the oath. They also addressed administrative details regarding necessary supplies, including Bibles for the ceremony and the participation of Frank C. Carlucci, III.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","White House press corps","Swearing-in ceremony","Ceremonial logistics","Ezra Solomon","Charles R. Richey"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T23:53:37.994Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","white-house-press-corps","swearing-in-ceremony","ceremonial-logistics","ezra-solomon","charles-r-richey"],"audioDurationSec":74,"audioFiles":[{"file":"568-005.mp3","bytes":2985060,"durationSec":74.48,"bitrate":320623,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.333Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/568-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/568-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/568/conversation-568-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}