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Start Date: 10-Sep-1971 9:27 AM

End Date: 10-Sep-1971 10:13 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Bull, Stephen B.Connally, John B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:03:16

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 00:51:11

569a.mp3

569b.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, and John B. Connally met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:27 am to 10:13 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 569-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 569-2

Date: September 10, 1971
Time: 9:27 am - 10:13 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     The economy
          -Meeting with labor union representatives
          -Momentum
               -End of 90-day wage and price freeze
                     -Future action
          -Congress
               -Democrats
                     -"Rich man" tax plan
          -Extension of price freeze
          -Cost of Living Council [COLC]
          -Contact with public
               -Use of White House staff
                     -Donald H. Rumsfeld, Robert H. Finch
                           -Ombudsman
                     -Charles W. Colson
                           -Plan
                                         2

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 569-2 (cont.)


Arthur F. Burns's schedule
     -Trip to Europe
           -John B. Connally
     -Meeting with the President prior to departure
           -Time of meeting
     -George P. Shultz
     -Connally
     -Meeting with the President
     -Trip to Europe
           -Connally, Shultz

The President's schedule
     -Meeting with Stewart W. Alsop
     -Meeting with Paul W. McCracken
          -Labor meeting
     -Dinner for Takeo Fukuda, September 10, 1971

White House worship service
     -Rev. William F. (“Billy”) Graham
          -Guests

Connally
    -Coordination on economic issues
         -The President's previous conversation with Shultz
         -William L. Safire, Raymond K. Price, Jr.
         -Colson
         -Making information available
               -Administration staff
                    -Shultz
                    -Connally

Connally
    -Relations with administration staff
         -Spiro T. Agnew
         -Melvin R. Laird
         -Meeting with John D. Ehrlichman, Haldeman, Shultz
                                         3

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 569-2 (cont.)


Burns
     -Meeting with the President
         -President’s views
         -Connally's presence
         -Prospects of future meetings with the President
               -Connally

Connally
    -Reaction to National Symphony concert at Kennedy Center, September 9, 1971
         -Conversation with Haldeman
               -Igor Stravinsky

President's economic speech, September 9, 1971
     -Price
            -Haldeman
            -Safire
                  -The President's speech
                        -Safire
                              -Substance
                  -Draft of speech
                        -Connally, Shultz
            -Previous conversation with Connally
     -Tax plan
     -Connally
     -Haldeman's previous conversation with Price
            -Price's conversation with Connally
                  -Date of conversation
     -Verification of subject for approval
            -George W. Romney
            -James D. Hodgson
     -Connally
            -Treasury
     -William P. Rogers
     -Burns
     -Romney
            -Information about subject of speech
                  -Testimony on Capitol Hill
                        -House Ways and Means Committee
                  -Testimony in accordance with speech content
     -Rogers
            -Cambodia
                                         4

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                  Tape Subject Log
                                    (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 569-2 (cont.)


                -Coordination
                     -Statement
     -Connally
         -Reaction to speech
               -Knowledge on issue
         -Reaction
     -Media coverage
         -Applause
         -Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
               -Standing ovation
                     -End of speech
         -Television editing of the President's speech
               -Parts of the President's speech
                     -Applause
               -Replay of key sentences
                     -Lead-in
                     -Wrap-up
               -Favorable reception to key point of the President's speech
                     -Wrap-up
     -Edward M. Kennedy
         -The poor
         -Business

Economic policy
    -Poverty
    -Tax cuts
         -Wilbur D. Mills
         -Amount
         -Cost
    -Nixon program
         -Initiative
                -Television appearances
    -Democrats
         -Welfare section of the President's speech
                -Criticism
                      -Edward W. Brooke
                           -Use of phrase on degradation in work
                      -Daniel K. Inouye
                           -Welfare rolls
                                 -Unemployment rate
                                      -Lack of jobs
                                         5

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                           Conv. No. 569-2 (cont.)


                                -Welfare
                                -Unemployed
     -Blacks
          -Menial jobs
                -George Meany
     -Welfare
     -Public opinion
          -Support for the President

Staffing
      -Haldeman’s previous conversation with Colson
           -Herbert G. Klein
           -Henry C. Cashen, II
                 -George T. Bell
           -Desmond J. Barker, Jr.
           -William Rhatican
                 -Public relations
                       -Advance man
                 -Previous jobs for the administration
           -Patrick E. O'Donnell
                 -L. Nicholas Ruwe
                 -Schedule
           -S. Steven Karalekas
                 -Writing staff
           -Safire
           -Richard A. Moore
           -Staff
           -Joseph Baroody, Jr.
                 -Public relations firm
                       -Citizens' Committee Organization
           -Staff
           -Rumsfeld, Finch

Economic policy
    -Follow-up
    -Shultz
          -Philosophical differences
                -Agreement on views
          -Wage and price controls follow-up
          -Elimination of freeze
    -Public opinion
                                   6

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                    Conv. No. 569-2 (cont.)


       -Approval of freeze
       -Trade restrictions
             -Approval rate
-Shultz
       -Politics
-Appearance of follow-up
       -Consultation
-The President's conversation with Shultz
       -Announcement of follow-up action
             -Date
-Administration staff
       -Statement on policy
             -Control of runaway inflation
                   -Freeze
       -Announcement of follow-up program
-Initiative
       -Deadline
             -Announcement
                   -Shultz
                   -Connally
-Peter G. Peterson
       -Public reaction and perceptions
       -Announcements
             -Failure to act on programs
             -Date
-Deadline
       -Need for a planned program
             -Time limit
-Announcement of follow-up plan
-Timetable
       -Hearings
       -Discussions
       -Completion of plan
             -Announcement
-Deadline
       -Staff
             -Meeting
                   -Peterson
-Connally
-Administration's actions
       -Meetings with different groups
                                    7

                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 569-2 (cont.)


            -Public confidence
      -The President's style
            -Decision-making process
-The President's conversation with Connally
      -Evaluation of meeting
-Public perceptions
-Meetings with different groups
-Administration plan
-Business
      -Wage freeze
-Labor
      -Interest rates, profits
-Agriculture
      -Parity issue
-Congress
      -Connally
-Announcement on follow-up programs
      -Date
-Cambodia comparison
-Camp David
      -Workload
-Announcement of follow-up programs
      -Date
      -Connally
      -The President's next press conference
            -Announcement of Soviet summit
      -Follow-up on freeze
            -Date of announcement
-Democrats
      -Shultz
      -Political strategy
            -Stance on wage and price freeze
                   -Comparison to Nixon administration position
                         -Eliminating freeze
            -Shultz
            -Build-up of issue
            -Wage and price freeze
-Issues
      -Economy
            -Freeze
                   -Burns, Shultz
                                        8

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                           Conv. No. 569-2 (cont.)


           -Political effect
                 -Safire
                 -Announcement on freeze
           -Connally
     -Announcement of follow-up programs on freeze
     -Accomplishments
     -Mills
           -Criticism of freeze program
           -90-day freeze
                 -Public expectations
                       -Extension of freeze
           -Development of Phase II
     -Date
           -Return from Alaska
           -Date for announcement
                 -Prior to announcement on Soviet summit
     -Announcement of follow-up program
           -Date
           -Business Week
           -US News & World Report
           -Date
           -Connally's role
                 -Staff work
                 -Time span
                 -COLC
                       -Connally as chairman
                 -COLC recommendations
                       -The President's decision
                             -Date
     -Newsworthy story
           -Timing
           -Weekend magazine deadline

President’s meeting with labor groups
     -Connally's attendance
           -Hodgson
                -Moderator role
     -Shultz
     -Connally
           -Decision on Phase II
     -Views of labor group
                                                9

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 569-2 (cont.)


          -Press participation at meeting
               -Photograph
               -Off-the-record nature of meeting
                      -No official press report

     Connally
         -Schedule
         -Meeting with the President and Haldeman

The President left at an unknown time before 10:04 am.

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:27 am.

     Connally

     Request for Connally’s presence

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:04 am.

Connally entered at 10:04 am.

     Greetings

     Burns
          -Possible meeting with the President
               -Trip to Europe
               -Connally's previous conversation with Burns
                     -President’s position
                           -Fixed exchange rates

The President entered at an unknown time after 10:04 am.

     Greetings

     Burns
          -Meetings with the President and Connally
          -Connally's trip to Europe
              -Burns
                     -Meetings with European officials
          -Connally's previous conversation with Burns
              -Convertibility
                                                10

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 569-2 (cont.)



     Upcoming meeting with labor group
         -Arrival

     Connally's previous conversation with Burns
         -Surcharge
         -Political issues
         -Time of call

     Connally's schedule
         -Meeting with the President and Burns
                -Time
                     -State dinner for Fukuda, September 10, 1971
         -Breakfast with Fukuda
         -Quadriad
         -COLC meeting
                -Discussion of Phase II
         -Meeting with the President and Burns
                -Time
         -COLC meeting
                -Connally
                -Burns

     The President's schedule
          -Camp David
               -Departure time
               -Return
                      -Church service
          -Meeting with Burns

     Announcement of Phase II
         -Set date
         -Press

Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:04 am.

     Arrival of labor group representatives

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:13 am.

     Announcement of Phase II
                                               11

                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 569-2 (cont.)


           -Date
                 -End of Phase I
           -Speculation
                 -Mills
                       -Freeze
           -Consultations
           -Connally
                 -Announcement as Chairman of COLC
                 -Date of announcement
                 -Forthcoming meeting of COLC
           -Date
                 -Prior to announcement of Soviet summit
                 -Follow-up program to Phase I
           -Readiness
           -Camp David
           -Dateline
           -Completion of work
                 -Datelines
                 -Time
           -Advantages in making announcement
                 -Public awareness
                 -Administration's actions
           -Consultations
           -Follow-ups
           -Implementation
           -Decision
                 -Date of announcement
           -Decision process
           -COLC meeting
                 -Timing
                 -Announcement
                 -News reports
                 -Procedure

Connally left at 10:13 am.

     Connally
         -Arrangements for labor group meeting

The President and Haldeman left at 10:13 am.
                                                12

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 569-2 (cont.)