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our own momentum on this and not letting the, we have created a possibility for an attack now on the whole economic thing.

The briefs, you know, the inspiration of the briefs and what are we going to do next.

Right.

And you've got Congress back and it's ready, it's clear, the Democrats are sort of saying, you know, the rich man's tax is flat.

And the, uh, uh,

We should keep the freeze on.

If you kept the freeze on, they would have said you should have a plan to take it off.

So I don't think we've done anything wrong.

I think we spent quite a lot of time talking about it.

because we need some service, some ombudsman types now so that people, so that we're saying things publicly and so that people who want to talk have a chance to talk so that we're both telling and listening, hearing and listening.

And we've got enough, I think, going that we're in good shape, I think, and I think we're

some of it already going and some of it well laid out to start with and a recognition all the way around with the need to do it if there's any developments or any need to convince people.

Arthur is going to Europe with Connelly on Monday and has asked to see you prior to his departure.

The question is whether you want to see him tomorrow morning.

Do you want to do anything?

One possibility is to outside if you wanted to.

until two to ten tonight.

You will check out the situation regarding the grave?

Yes, sir.

I have not done it.

I think there's no problem.

I think he's glad to go to the city.

I'm sure.

I would think he would, too.

Yeah, I just wonder...

decision in terms of just simply informing, you know, I didn't want to see what was here.

So, you know, we've got a situation where they basically have an impression, an assumption.

It's not just an assumption, but it's the

See what I mean?

Yeah.

And it isn't enough.

You've got to...

Boy, that's pure truth.

And that is absolutely clear.

I don't work with any level.

He doesn't have to talk to just me or just Earthman or just us.

His business is all ours.

He was really very irritating to me.

He's trying to come in to get his own ideas.

I was watching him during it.

He was practically asleep before the thing started.

I was so tired.

He locked up Stravinsky.

I said, do you do this stuff?

He said, no, I'm sure I do.

I love those drums.

So I locked up Stravinsky.

I said, do you do this stuff?

and we find out who the prime minister is.

Yeah, but I think it's quite possible it was cleared with the shelter or whatever he was getting input from and not run by a cop.

I think there's a real possibility that that was.

back on clearances also and did talk with the company.

That's why I want to check with Greg also because he did check with me before, but there was only a thousand in the package back when he left at that time.

But the day before that, he did check with the company.

So I talked to him on the phone.

He said he had talked with the company.

Not the day before the speech, but back when he was working.

You see, what I meant is, Bob, we have a special problem with comedy.

Yeah.

Well, even before, let's say we're wrong on that one, he should have been told that that was going to be covered.

because he was on the Hill testifying for an entire day before Ways and Means, and he should have known what was going to come so that he wouldn't say anything contrary to it.

I mean, it might have been very far-fetched, but that's the Phil Rogers argument on the, you know, something or other, the Cambodia or something, that he was up in Tuscany on the track, not knowing what the decision was, making wrong decisions.

It's not critical whether the building's ready or not.

We went and did the writing, and now that it's done, it's time to set up the day, something like that, so that we can move it around and extend it.

And his daughter, Lucy, actually was still a puppy.

Very good.

It was all, they used many of the applause and yes, they used the applause and they, I don't know how they did it, they must have juxtaposed something because they created, see yesterday was creating a impression of a standing ovation on one of the points which they must have just cut to the end of the speech just because there was no standing ovation during the speech, I don't believe it was in that.

And they carried the key segments of the speech with a lead-in and a wrap-up.

The biblical reception and the key points were what came through.

Nobody hit it hard.

Even, you know, I can't, he said, well...

You've got all the initiative.

You've got on the TV asking for it.

Now, whatever they do is, where's the, I noticed that some of the, some of the

you haven't said that no work is degrading.

Because some work is.

And I know you hit you on the, you know, telling people to get off the welfare rolls.

You know, they should refuse jobs.

Don't you know that there's 6.2% unemployment?

There's a lot of people looking for jobs.

And others aren't jobs.

What are you saying to us?

is for you to tell them you need to work when there aren't jobs for anyone.

Of course, that's totally irrelevant.

It's a welfare if you aren't looking for jobs.

People looking for jobs

When we were talking the other day, I guess it was in this office, when you were raising the point of adequate staffing, he said he hadn't gone into detail on the staffing.

But in thinking about it, you ought to know that he's got a hell of a lot of people.

See, he's got rid of one of his hacks.

he's got

PR guy that we had as advanced staff, we pulled him off and moved him in.

He's been working on other things and he's shipped over.

And then Pat O'Donnell was his scheduling guy that's doing the, Nick really touched on pulling people around.

He's working a little over half time on it.

And, of course, Sapphire and Muller, these people are helping out.

There are people, and there are good people working on it.

They're bringing Joe Beruti's PR firm in to work with the Citizens Committee organization they've got.

He's got me through.

He's, he, well, definitely.

Now, I mean, you've got to take a lot of it in here.

You're on a smaller group here.

You see, we have a philosophical difference with Schultz on this.

Schultz put, and I agree with you on assumptions, but I mean, we count on him in our politics.

It's very much really against any control's fault.

He just wants to, he's just a hard-headed, you know what I mean?

He just doesn't think we should have felt bad.

We didn't have a breeze at all.

You know, however.

Boom.

So we will announce it all on the program.

Now I think the thing to do

because he said you have he goes you're in the position or could get you're not in it if you could get over time and will in the position of a general public

We all agree that we shouldn't do that for a while, though, until we really know we will never.

The worst thing you can do is announce that they cannot do it.

Because that really don't make it something that I know, I know, I know, I don't.

At the end of the day,

by the end of this month we've got to have a plan.

I'd rather not say that as of a certain date we can't make these uncertain people.

You see, before a certain time that means whether we're going to crash around and find something before a certain time.

It's better to end it this way.

We're only here next week.

The plans will be finalized and then the announcement.

Yeah.

I understand what his judgment is on that point.

But I think the most important thing is that we have indicated that we know

and you know what you're doing.

This is so much, you see.

It's not, and also, let's face it, that's what all people usually do.

It's really not the style that I follow.

Everybody knows goddamn well that I've insulted a whole hell of a lot of people in order to find out what I'm doing.

And we know that this is all wind up dressing them in just pure shit.

Now that's a, now you have to give us some sense of reality.

I know we are, we are.

the labor guys will want to have some sort of a thing that will not be too workable.

And the agriculture guys are going to fix the problems.

And I know it doesn't match up.

And it's a body of work.

Agriculture guys will 100% bear it.

But could I say that I suggest that they have a, I think that the stuff that has come out of the Congress today

I don't want to be tired of the day, but they know they have to have it before October 15th.

And I do.

And if something, rather than putting it to a forced draft,

I do this.

12.

Do you want it before that or after that?

That's a Soviet thing.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I just didn't do it before.

I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a, I just didn't do it and have the Soviet thing wipe it out.

Like I said, you can tell it was meant to look like that, but it's true.

I thought I said it first.

Well, I am good.

The reason I say that, Bob, is that I know the – I know that the – and much more sensitive than our group here is as to the desperate position that Democrats are in.

They have to get out and create – see, their idea is nothing to do – see, George Bush didn't understand this, I'm sorry, last time.

They're trying to create the impression that two things.

One, that, well, we just went a long way to Brighton Street.

And everybody says, they're for it.

Let's see.

We were for it.

And now, you see, they're fighting to get us in position.

We're there for Brighton Street.

And we are just getting rid of it.

Do you get my point?

This is what George didn't understand.

And did your people in there understand?

Yeah.

All right.

Now, if that is the case, the thing to do is to pull that right out from under the

And it would appear then that they can force us into a program that I've already announced we're going to do.

You see that we were, we had to leave Christchurch and I said we'd have a

Thank you, but they didn't get to that.

Well, don't underestimate it there.

Just in case they'll make it, they can get it.

I don't know if it's going to be hard to do.

Don't forget all that stuff about my mom.

That bunch of people whining about this presidential action wants to freeze.

We must not let them even leave any crap in the door.

This has nothing to do with

It has to do with the politics.

Only the politics.

That's all.

At the time it was announced, did you see my wife?

I thought you didn't hear her.

I thought you didn't talk to Colin.

I didn't call him.

But there's no problem.

It'll be handled properly.

We have to come.

We have to come eventually.

We've got to.

of what we already have.

And I think maybe Mills and that may have a little bit of a criticism.

Don't you think so?

No.

But the reason, Bill, that, uh,

Well, to be honest and say so.

Well, I thought it was a little good, but I think we should say, now this is my view, I think we should set it up that we can do it on time.

There's no reason why we can't.

This is the 10th, the 17th, the 20th.

I think it's good.

Isn't the 7th about the best date?

Probably, yeah.

7th of the 14th.

And that's part of the race.

And this one, I'm sure this is not all that big.

I mean, a little bit of it isn't going to be particularly good.

But every time you listen to it, you're not going to get a lot of mileage out of it.

It's only the fact you're doing it.

And if you do it on the 7th, why not?

On a Sunday?

Oh.

I mean, it's a good fact, yeah.

But it's a magazine story, so you probably should do it on the cover, so that this is weak and the U.S. students can explain it to you.

Because that's a weak story.

Your therapy was decided before October 15th.

I laugh at that.

That was not therapy.

That was just the one.

Therapy was not set a date now at all to wait a week or two before you set a date.

Never let a good person know.

Okay, I'll tell you what to do.

Let's be confident.

He has a better field of view than you is, but you can get to the top.

You get to the top.

See?

Rather than me.

Yeah.

I think he should.

I think he should say that.

Yes, we have the cause.

We may consider this the cause of the council.

He's the chairman of the council.

He can say that the council will be completing its recommendations and the president has told me he will be making his decision announcing it on October 7th.

I heard it frankly just then.

Why not miss me and talk to Connolly about this?

Of course.

I think he is.

I think we've got to cut a hole.

I see.

Good.

But he felt very strongly that this being a labor group, that Hodgson should be the moderator guy, that the local association, he and Schultz will, of course, be there.

All right.

But Hodgson will say, Mr. President, we've got these leaders here, and so I think you can just, you should simply say you appreciate their coming, and we're getting ready to make our decisions on phase two, and we wanted to get your views.

All right.

Let's start talking.

I'll make the point that basic ground rules that fell out of the press intro.

I told you at the beginning that there will be no press report for the meeting afterwards if this is an off the record.

But that we will be taking notes and

He's here.

Yeah, he's here.

He's here.

All right.

Hello, there's our order.

How do you do, kids?

You want to ask a couple of things?

How many inches of dirt are there?

We want it as smart as we could.

We can help us in this way.

And I'm going to turn the meeting on the 13th.

They're going up into Europe.

That's not a new thing to give us both on market construction because he's going to see more of it.

He's going to see more of it.

and that part of the field is very strong and we have to remain committed to that.

Number two, we ought not to shift.

Excuse me, sir, can I play the people out here?

Yes.

That part of the field is very strong.

We ought not to have all the terms of the term, all the terms of the term, all the terms of the term, all the terms of the term, all the terms of the term,

What did he do?

Can you get up this afternoon and all the good, or is tomorrow morning better for you?

Saturday.

I've missed a bunch of these Japanese.

Tomorrow I have breakfast.

You want to come over after that?

Yes.

We're going to meet with the cost of living council.

If I go, I have to go.

I think that we, I think it's the most important thing is to indicate we know what we're doing.

Now this is my own thinking with me to say now we're gonna complete our consummations, we're completing our consummations, so forth.

And to have you announce you as the head of the cost-relevant council that, and I think that the time to do it would be after your meeting tomorrow, that you would announce that you, that if you could think

How does that sound to you as an approach?

That's fine.

I have no argument with that.

What's the argument against it?

The argument against it, the only real argument against it, is the question of whether we know for sure that we'll be ready for the plan that we're ready to go with.

Well, we are.

It's like getting the announcement out of Camp David.

We have to.

We have.

My mom isn't going to make it any better.

The thing I'll do is to get your ass out and get it done.

Then our internal thing should be that all the work has got to be completed by this September 30th.

September 30th is the date that I have it.

On October 7th is the date of the announcement.

That's fine.

It gives the president a warning if he makes the announcement.

And now we will announce phase two then.

All right, all right, we lose the initiative.

All right, the only thing is that your consultations are not complete.

The only factor is you announce it tomorrow.

a week of follow-up things, a week of implementation, and then the decision.

But that puts the heat on the decision.

Yeah.

Yes, there's a dang boot.

Here, I can do it, man.

90% of the men would have stalled in there so they could walk in.

He's going to let me get there before he gets there.