{"conversationCode":"569-008","tapeNumber":569,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-569-008","startDateTime":"1971-09-10T16:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-10T16:39:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Sep-1971","startTime":"12:36 PM","endDate":"10-Sep-1971","endTime":"12:39 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:36 pm and 12:39 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 569-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 569-8\n\nDate: September 10, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:36 pm and 12:39 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Paul W. McCracken\n                -Schedule\n          -Meeting with McCracken\n                -Time\n          -Schedule\n\n     New presidential podium\n         -Residence\n\n     Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n          -Book\n          -Gift [crystal vase]\n\nButterfield left at an unknown time before 12:39 pm.","filename":["569a.mp3","569b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:14:39","tapeEnd":"01:16:18","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"569-007","nextCode":"569-009","tapeTranscriptFile":"569a.mp3,569b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":4493.02,"end":4493.96,"text":"Mr. President, Dr. McCracken is meeting with me."},{"start":4493.98,"end":4494.92,"text":"We're talking about the economic ministry."},{"start":4494.94,"end":4495.56,"text":"Yeah, but I'll see you tonight."},{"start":4495.58,"end":4495.82,"text":"Yeah, me too."},{"start":4495.84,"end":4497.24,"text":"Some place around 4 or 4.30, we can meet and figure out what it was."},{"start":4497.27,"end":4497.65,"text":"Yeah, we can do that."},{"start":4522.65,"end":4523.21,"text":"This is the peace."},{"start":4523.23,"end":4524.23,"text":"This is the very greatest peace in my heart."},{"start":4524.31,"end":4524.69,"text":"I see the peace."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":4479,"end":4578,"startMethod":"tape_time","endMethod":"tape_time"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull briefly coordinate the President's upcoming schedule, specifically finalizing a meeting with Paul W. McCracken to discuss economic policy. The conversation also touches upon administrative matters regarding a new presidential podium for the residence and a gift for First Lady Pat Nixon. The participants conclude by confirming a later meeting to further clarify their agenda.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Economic policy","Paul W. McCracken","Pat Nixon","White House administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T23:55:08.109Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","economic-policy","paul-w-mccracken","pat-nixon","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":99,"audioFiles":[{"file":"569a.mp3","bytes":178965941,"durationSec":7456.84,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"569b.mp3","bytes":33628995,"durationSec":1401.15,"bitrate":192007,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.333Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/569a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/569b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/569-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/569/conversation-569-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}