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Start Date: 11-Sep-1971 9:50 AM

End Date: 11-Sep-1971 10:51 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Bull, Stephen B.Sanchez, ManoloWarren, Gerald L.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:08:41

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:04:58

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NARA Description:

On September 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, Manolo Sanchez, and Gerald L. Warren met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:50 am to 10:51 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 570-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 570-2

Date: September 11, 1971
Time: 9:50 am - 10:51 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
[Discontinuities occurred at the time of original recording]

     Japanese Cabinet Ministers Dinner, September 10, 1971
          -Duration
          -[Unintelligible]
          -Public relations value
               -Press view
                      -US-Japan relations
                            -The President’s forthcoming welcome to Empress and Emperor of
                                 Japan
          -The President’s remarks
               -Dinners for Heads of State, government, cabinet
               -Prime Minister Eisaku Sato
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                                               Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)


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     JAPAN


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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:50 am.


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Bull left at an unknown time before 10:51 am.

     White House social events
          -Alexander P. Butterfield
          -Cabinet officers
                -Attendance
          -Lower level officials
          -John A. Volpe
          -William P. Rogers
          -Sub-Cabinet and White House staff
                -Peter M. Flanigan
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                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                             Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)


     -Peter G. Peterson
     -Japanese ministers dinner
     -Henry C. Cashen, II
-The President's previous experiences as Vice President
-Other heads of state
     -Royalty
-Gen. Francisco Franco
-Emperor Franz Josef
-Marshal Josip Broz Tito
-Royalty
     -Roles, responsibilities
     -The President’s role
-Cabinet, sub-Cabinet officers
     -Selection for dinner invitation
           -Reward for hard work
     -Forthcoming Dinners
           -Indira Gandhi, Tito
     -Attendance
           -Future handling
     -Kennedy Center
           -Presidential box
           -Number of seats in box
           -Opera House at Kennedy Center
                 -Number of seats in Presidential box
           -Eisenhower Theater at Kennedy Center
                 -Number of seats in Presidential box
           -Concert Hall at Kennedy Center
           -Performances
           -Availability of box use to Cabinet members
           -Use of box privileges
           -Charles W. Colson's contacts
                 -Heads of associations
                 -Businessmen
                 -Presidential boxes in Kennedy Center theaters
           -Cabinet members
                 -Seats in Presidential box
                       -Comparison with tickets to football game
     -Camp David
           -Use
                 -Congressional
     -Kennedy Center
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                               Tape Subject Log
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                                                         Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)


               -Presidential box
                     -Prestige

Kennedy Center
    -Washington Star article
         -Architecture
               -Edward Durrell Stone
         -Cultural center
               -Outside facade
               -Comparison to Australian structure
                     -Underground
                     -Park
    -Concert
         -Reviews
               -Acoustics
                     -The President’s comment
               -Program
               -Acoustics
                     -Antal Dorati
               -Program
                     -Isaac Stern
                           -Chamber recital
                           -Frederic Chapin
               -Choir
                     -Ludwig Van Beethoven
                     -Type of music
               -Igor Stravinsky
               -Choir
                     -Beethoven’s 9th Symphony
               -Peter I. Tchaikovsky
                     -5th Symphony
               -George Gershwin
               -Stravinsky
    -Mass
         -New York Times review
               -Youth culture
         -Leonard Bernstein
               -Celebration of Mass
               -Youth culture
                     -Wearing of robes
                     -Disrobing
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                                Tape Subject Log
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                                                          Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)


                          -Significance
          -Wearing of vestments
              -Discarding of vestments
                    -Significance
              -Importance of Youth

Personnel
     -Office of Emergency Preparedness [OEP]
           -James T. Lynn
           -George P. Shultz
           -Flanigan
           -Gen. George A. Lincoln
           -Freeze duration
                -Lincoln
                      -Ability as administrator
           -Lincoln
           -Maurice H. Stans
                -Appointment of Lincoln

The President's schedule
     -Montana trip
          -Michael J. Mansfield
                 -Return
                      -Time
          -Northwest portion of state
                 -Helicopter tour
                      -Duration
          -Landing
                 -Kalispell, Montana
                 -Reservoir
                 -Libby Dam
                      -Dedication
                      -Time of completion
                      -Possible name
                             -Mansfield
                      -Montana town
                             -Flood damage
                             -Renaming of the town
                                  -Mansfield
          -Helicopter tour
                 -Kalispell
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                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. 10/06)
                                                          Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)


          -Hungry Horse Dan
          -Glacier National Park
                -Location
          -Indian reservation
                -Blackfoot
                -International Peace Park
                -Indian Museum of the Plains
          -Comparison of tour options
    -Indian reservation
          -Headdress
    -Great Falls, Montana
          -Possible stop
          -Charles Russell Western Museum
          -Lewis and Clark National Wildlife Reserve
                -Visit
    -Missoula, Montana
          -US Forest Service, Department of Agriculture Smoke Jumper Center
                -Forest fire prevention
                -Dedication by President Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1954
                -Training center
                      -Parachute loft
                      -Warehouses
    -Great Falls
    -Kalispell
          -Mansfield's recommendations
-Washington state
    -Seattle
          -Fort Lawton
                -Present problem of Indians and the mayor
                      -Daniel J. Evans
          -Lake Washington
                -Sewage treatment facilities
    -Tri-city area of Kennewick-Richland
          -Tacoma
          -Walla-Walla
          -Hanford nuclear facility
          -Public attitude in Hanford
          -Newspaper support for the President
          -Governor [Evan] reception
    -Hanford
          -Possibility of remarks by the President
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                                     Tape Subject Log
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                                                              Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)


                    -James R. Schlesinger
                    -William S. Magruder
                    -Possibility of large crowds
                    -Hotel facilities
                          -Advance work
              -Seattle
              -Walla-Walla
         -Oregon
              -Portland
                    -Possibility of overnight stopover
                    -Church attendance


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                    -Day
                          -Briefing
                          -Montana to Portland
                    -Media briefing
                    -Departure
                          -Time
                    -Overnight stop
                    -Staff work
                    -Departure time
         -Washington
              -Hanford
         -Alaska
         -Planning trip
                    -Difficulties
                          -Staff and advance work
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)


     Economic policies
         -Reprivatization
              -Martin C. Anderson
                    -John D. Ehrlichman
         -Major program
              -Time
         -Major policy statement
         -Small non-public task force
              -Analysis of problem by task force
              -People outside of the government
                    -Bryce N. Harlow
                    -Milton Friedman
                    -Alan Greenspan
                    -William J. Baroody, Jr.
              -Anderson
                    -Director of study
                    -Announcement
                          -Conservatives

     Recruitments
          -Frederic V. Malek
          -Statistics

     Coffee

The President left an unknown time before 10:51 am.

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 9:50 am.

     Coffee

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 10:51 am.

The President re-entered at an unknown time after 9:50 am

     Administration staff
         -Recruitment
               -Caliber of people
                     -People from outside of government
         -John N. Mitchell
               -Harry S. Flemming
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                                 Tape Subject Log
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                                                          Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)


     -Flanigan
     -Computer recruitments
          -Ehrlichman
     -Recruiting process
          -Ability of individuals
     -Appointees
          -Vice presidents of corporations
                -Experience in government
                      -Return to private sector

Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
    -Frank Stanton
          -Change of jobs
    -[Charles T. Ireland]
    -William S. Paley

Personnel appointments
     -Ambassador for agricultural exports
           -David M. Kennedy
           -Clarence D. Palmby
                 -Promotion of food exports
           -Peterson
           -Clifford M. Hardin
           -Rogers
                 -Support of idea
           -Symbolic interest in exports
                 -Food exports
                 -Peterson
           -Rogers
                 -Support

US economy
     -Wage and price issue
          -Follow-up
                -Discussion with John B. Connally
                     -Staff meeting
     -Detroit Economic Club
          -Discussion with Connally
          -Question and Answer [Q&A] period

The President's schedule
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                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)


     -Q&A period for Congress
         -Location
              -State Department auditorium
         -Timing
              -Trips to the Soviet Union, People's Republic of China [PRC]
              -Election
              -Vietnam

Announcement of economic action
    -Timing
    -Date
          -Options
          -30-days leadtime
                -Disadvantages
    -Timing
          -Month
    -Connally
          -Advantages
    -Date
    -Public relations
          -Wage and price restraints
          -Labor leaders
                -George Meany
                      -Plan
                            -News account

College students
     -Handling
     -Ehrlichman's theory
           -College presidents

Tennis matches
     -Spiro T. Agnew
           -Attendance
     -Match
           -Young player [Chris Evert]
                -Age
                -Winning streak
                -Billie Jean King
                -Forest Hills
     -King
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                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)


          -Professional status
                -Tactics
     -[Evert]
          -Future
          -Attractiveness

Miss America contest
     -Television show
     -Time
     -1970 Miss America [Phyllis Ann George]
          -Touring
          -Release from obligation to refrain from making controversial statements
                -Women's liberation
                -Demonstrators and individuals perceived as anti-American
                -Media
                     -Portrayal of the US
                           -Views
          -Home
     -Contestants
          -Questions
                -Support for the President's Vietnam policy
                     -Responses
          - Middle America

News media
    -Handling
          -Action
          -Congress
          -Tax proposals
               -Response by the press
    -Position vis-a-vis the President
          -Credit
    -Attitude
          -Vietnam War
               -Responsibilities
               -Foreign policy
                     -Press reaction

Vietnam
     -Henry M. ("Scoop") Jackson
          -Comments about forthcoming election in Vietnam
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                                     Tape Subject Log
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                                                                       Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)


                   -Press reaction
         -Forthcoming election
                   -US public reaction
         -Context
              -Congressional elections
              -US elections

    John and Idanell (“Nellie”) Connally
         -Demeanor at social events
               -Interaction with other people
               -Comparison with the President and Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
                     -Haldeman
                           -Quote about cocktail parties from [Look] article
               -Connally


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    Connally
        -Type of impression
        -Type of audience
        -Comparison to the President

    State dinners
          -Handling
               -Japanese Ambassador
                    -Yellow Oval Room meeting
                         -Armin H. Meyer
                         -U. Alexis Johnson
                         -Henry A. Kissinger
                         -Rogers
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                                  Tape Subject Log
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Schedule
     -Ehrlichman
     -Paul W. McCracken

Cost of Living Council [COLC]
     -Arthur F. Burns
           -Attendance

Connally
    -Possible meeting with the President

McCracken
    -Meeting with the President
         -Council meeting
              -Time
              -Burns

US economic policy

News stories
    -General public perceptions
    -The President's speech to Congress, September 9, 1971
    -Labor meeting
          -Reactions on Capitol Hill

The President's schedule
     -Congressional meeting
          -Time
          -Time of departure
     -Vacation
          -Florida
          -Time of departure
                 -Response
     -Press conference
     -Congressional meeting
     -Alaska trip
          -Oregon
          -Montana
          -Flight pattern
                 -Glacier National Park
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                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                       Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)


                  -Helicopter tour
                       -National parks
                       -Kalispell
            -Montana trip
                  -Naming a town or bridge
                       -Mansfield
                  -Republicans
                  -Town
                  -Bridge
                       -"Mansfield Bridge"
            -Florida
                  -Weather
                       -September
                             -Hurricane season
                             -Camp David


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    Public relations
         -Color story
                -Mrs. Nixon
                     -Credit for idea
                -Custom of using military aides at funerals of Senators and Congressmen
                     -Gerald Lipscomb

    Staff
            -Maj. Gen. James D. ("Don") Hughes
                 -Position
                       -Duration in job
                 -Election year
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                                                      Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)


                     -Change
               -Military service
                     -Command position
                     -Promotion
               -Personality
          -Vernon C. Coffey, Jr.
               -Unknown man
                     -Russian expert
                     -Air Force background
               -Lt. Col. Ralph D. Albertazzie
               -Political stipulation
               -John V. Brennan, Craig S. Campbell
                     -Rank
                     -Senior aide
               -Qualifications
                     -Character
                            -Effect on the President
               -Campaign
                     -Election
               -Time of appointment
                     -Length of appointment
          -Hughes
               -Possible meeting with Haldeman
                     -Discussion of appointment
               -Coffey
                     -Air Force
                     -Press story
                            -Type
                            -Reactions

Bull and Gerald L. Warren entered at an unknown time after 9:50 am.

     Photographs
          -Picture of the President
                -Connally

The President and Haldeman left at 10:51 am.
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                        Conv. No. 570-2 (cont.)