{"conversationCode":"570-005","tapeNumber":570,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-570-005","startDateTime":"1971-09-11T16:53:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-11T16:56:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Sep-1971","startTime":"12:53 PM","endDate":"11-Sep-1971","endTime":"12:56 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:53 pm and 12:56 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 570-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 570-5\n\nDate: September 11, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:53 pm and 12:56 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     Barking dog\n\n     Paul W. McCracken\n\n           -Forthcoming meeting\n\n     Charles G. (“Bebe\") Rebozo\n          -Visit with the President\n                -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n\n     Dog\n           -Location in Oval Office\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:56 pm.","filename":["570-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:52:02","tapeEnd":"01:52:44","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"570-004","nextCode":"570-006","transcript":[{"start":1.03,"end":14.73,"text":"I'm wondering if, uh, he's alive, doesn't he?"},{"start":14.75,"end":15.47,"text":"He's gone."},{"start":15.49,"end":16.85,"text":"He's in the parking lot."},{"start":16.87,"end":17.2,"text":"He's gone today."},{"start":17.21,"end":17.32,"text":"Fine."},{"start":17.34,"end":18.1,"text":"Um, McCracken is on his way over, sir."},{"start":18.12,"end":18.38,"text":"Yeah, I know."},{"start":18.4,"end":18.72,"text":"I told him that."},{"start":18.74,"end":19.94,"text":"In just a couple of minutes."},{"start":20.06,"end":20.86,"text":"Do you want to sit with me for a second?"},{"start":20.88,"end":21.42,"text":"He's still with Mrs. Nixon."},{"start":21.44,"end":21.9,"text":"Or... Yeah, sir."},{"start":21.92,"end":23.18,"text":"Do you want to talk right over here?"},{"start":23.2,"end":23.3,"text":"Yeah."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate logistics for an upcoming appointment with economist Paul W. McCracken. The conversation also touched upon the scheduling of a visit by Charles G. “Bebe” Rebozo, who was meeting with First Lady Pat Nixon at the time. The brief exchange focused primarily on internal administrative arrangements and the movement of staff and guests within the White House.","topics":["Paul W. McCracken","Bebe Rebozo","Pat Nixon","White House logistics","Scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T23:55:59.616Z"},"topicSlugs":["paul-w-mccracken","bebe-rebozo","pat-nixon","white-house-logistics","scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":25,"audioFiles":[{"file":"570-005.mp3","bytes":1013338,"durationSec":25.19,"bitrate":321778,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.333Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/570-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/570-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/570/conversation-570-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}