Conversation: 572-008
Prev: 572-007 Next: 572-009Start Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1971 4:37 PM
End Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1971 5:45 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); [Unknown person(s)]; Colson, Charles W.; Bull, Stephen B.Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:50:00
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:01:25
NARA Description:
On September 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), Charles W. Colson, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:37 pm to 1:45 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 572-008 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 572-8
Date: September 14, 1971
Time: 12:37 pm - 1:45 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman; an unknown person was present at the
beginning of the meeting.
The President's schedule
Presidential gifts
-Eisenhower silver dollar
-Price
-US Mint
-Value
-Special groups
-Stephen B. Bull
-Supply
An unknown person at an unknown time after 12:37 pm.
Charles W. Colson's schedule
-Briefing
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 12:44 pm.
Presidential gifts
-Box
An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 12:37 pm.
Gifts
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 572-8 (cont.)
The unknown man left at an unknown time before 12:44 pm.
Williams Commission members
-Certificates of appreciation
-Williams Commission
-Certificates
-Bible to minister
-Signature
-Rose Mary Woods
Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
-List
-Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo
-Investigation
-New York City IRS office
-Reporter
-Investigations
-Jews
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-Johnnie M. Walters
-Directions
Colson entered at 12:44 pm.
Congressional relations
-Previous meeting with Congressional leadership
-Status of bills
-Robert J. Dole
-Senate
-Issue poll by Opinion Research Corporation [ORC]
-Hugh Scott
-Robert P. Griffin
-Gordon L. Allott
-Peter H. Dominick
-Wallace F. Bennett
-Milton R. Young
-Jacob K. Javits
-House of Representatives
-Gerald R. Ford
-Leslie C. Arends
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 572-8 (cont.)
-John B. Anderson
-John J. Rhodes
-Robert C. Wilson
-H. Allen Smith
-Robert T. Stafford
-Colson's calls to Senators and Congressmen
-The President's meeting
-Poll
-Congress
-Democrats
-Conference
-Congressional recess
-Issues
-Support for pay raise
-Congressional leadership
-Pay raise issue
-Robert P. Griffin
-Note to the President
-Excise tax
-Support for repeal
-Clark MacGregor's role
-Griffin
-Information from poll to Senators and Congressmen
-Cover letter from Dole
-Members of Congress
-Relations between administration and Congress
-Attendance of White House staff at meetings
-MacGregor
-William E. Timmons
-The President's role at meeting
-White House staff
-Handling of poll information
-Haldeman's memo to MacGregor
-Timmons
-Conversation with Colson
-Letter with poll information
-Statements
-Press reaction
Public relations
-Edmund S. Muskie
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 572-8 (cont.)
-Press reaction to recent comments
-News summaries
-Lyndon K. ("Mort") Allin
-Time, Newsweek
-Book [Edith Efron's The News Twisters]
-Press reaction
-Administration opponents
-Cabinet officers' actions
-Elliot Richardson
-Muskie's remarks
-Busing
-William P. Rogers
-Congress
-Melvin R. Laird
-Connally
-Congressional matters
-Barry M. Goldwater, Sr.
-Muskie
-Muskie
-Newsweek
-Time
-1960 and 1968 elections
-Herbert G. Klein, Ronald L. Ziegler
-Relations with the press
-White House staff
-John A. Scali
-Ziegler
-Role as Press Secretary
-Press relations
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Eric F. Goldman
-Victor Lasky, William S. White
-Time article on the President's speech
-Labor Day speech
-Rhetoic
-Work ethics
-Congress’ reaction
-Networks
-Television
-William A. Gill, Jr.
-George Washington
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 572-8 (cont.)
-Equal time requests from Democrats
-Previous requests
-Joseph A. Califano
-American Broadcasting Company [ABC]
-Coverage of Muskie
-Reaction to remark
-Black Vice Presidential candidate
-Thomas W. Braden
-Ernest F. Hollings
-John Conyers, Jr.
-Possible Presidential candidacy by a black
-Carl B. Stokes
-Liberal columnists
-Braden
-Possible question for the President
The President's schedule
-Meeting with Governors
-Briefing time
-Number of attendees
Meetings
-Distribution of poll and information
-Bull
-White House staff
-MacGregor
-Cabinet meeting
-John A. Volpe
-Javitz's comments
-Patriotism
-Community committees
-Leonard Bernstein
-Mass
Rotary International
-William E. Walk, Jr.
-Telegrams
Domestic issues
-Letters to Congress on draft extension vote
-Democrats
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 572-8 (cont.)
-Republicans
-Colson's meeting with lobbyists
-Mail
-Specific measures
-Robert C. Wilson
-Meeting with the President, September 14, 1971
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-Speech
-1970 campaign
-Support for the President's program
-Farmers organization
-Business groups
-Polls
-Farmers
-Tony C. DeChant
-Cooperatives
-Meeting with the President
-Leadership
-Support from Congress
-Cabinet
-Mood
-Richardson
-George W. Romney
-Volpe
-John N. Mitchell
-Spiro T. Agnew
-Role
-Appearance at Governors' Conference
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 572-8 (cont.)
-Muskie appearance
-Busing
-Black for Vice President
-Liberals
-Articles on Romney
-Comparison
-Press
-Reaction toward Muskie
-Reaction toward the President
-John B. Connally's remark
-Comparison between Muskie and Romney
-Source of black as Vice President remark
-Comparison to Romney's brainwashing comment
-Administration response
-The President's record and views
-1960, 1968 campaigns
-American tradition
-Cartoon on Muskie's remarks in Monday magazine
-Compared to Patrick B. Oliphant cartoons
-Muskie rally
-Robert J. Brown
-Signs
-Blacks
-Patrick J. Buchanan's suggestion
-Funds for financing black candidates
-Shirley Chisholm
-Julian Bond
-Black voters
-Democratic Party
-Black candidates
-Financing
-Eugene J. McCarthy
-Howard Stein
-US News and World Report
-Newsweek
-McCarthy plan
-Primaries
-Speaking tour
-Democratic National Convention
-People's candidate
-Fourth party
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 572-8 (cont.)
-George Wallace
-Funds for McCarthy, black candidates
-Black candidates
-Comparison with Democrats' votes for Wallace
-Alabama primary
-Use of funds
-Television commercials, billboards
Relations between administration and press
-Improvement
-Press office
-Role
-Factual errors
-Ziegler
Democratic National Committee [DNC]
-Publication
-Muskie's statement
-The President's possible response to question on Muskie's statement
-Qualified candidate
-Edward W. Brooke
-The President's record
Domestic issues
-Letters to Congress
-Colson's staff
-Check on mail, wires
-Effect of volume of the President's August 15, 1971 speech
-Phillips Petroleum
-Newspaper issue support coupons for mailing
-Oklahoma
-Colson's meeting
-Jack R. Miller
-Volume of mail
-Support for investment tax credit
-Future White House contact, handling
-Possible trip to People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Mail
-Federal pay issue
-Congressional issue
-Federal employees union
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 572-8 (cont.)
-Chamber of Commerce
-Democrats
-Action on bill in Congress
-Partisanship
-Governors' Conference
-Investment tax credit
-Retroactive
-Individual tax exemption increase
-Control on profits and dividends
-Administration's response
-[Peter G. Peterson's] speech
-Profits
-Benefits for working class
-Re-investment
-Federal revenue
-The President's program
-Public support
-Businessmen
-The President's speeches on August 15 and September 9, 1971
-Leadership
-Labor Day speech
-George Meany
-Public reaction
-Poll
-Percentage of support
-Tone of remarks
-As labor leader
-Democrats
-Actions in Congress
-The President's initiative
-Governors' Conference caucus
-Television appearances
-Since August 15, 1971
-Public image of the President's administration
-Cambodian action in Vietnam War
-Dick Cavett
-Guest’s attack on administration's welfare policy
-ABC
-Administration's response
-Daniel P. Moynihan
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 572-8 (cont.)
The President's meeting with Republican Congressional leadership
-Effect of meeting
-Capitol Hill
-Support for Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Javits
-Barber B. Conable, Jr.
-Ford
-Scott
-The President's support
-Rockefeller's statement
-Javits
-The President's statements
-Demonstrations
-Attica State Prison riot
-Public reaction
-Support for Rockefeller
-Scott
-Black Muslims
-Role
-Black Panthers
-Reaction of blacks
-White House elevator operator
Colson left at 1:32 pm.
Committee to Form a National Health Education Foundation
-Meeting with the President
-Richardson
-Announcement of the Presidential Commission
-Purpose of Commission
-Preventive medicine
-Report
-Ehrlichman
-Citizens' involvement
-Length of meeting
-The President's attendance
-Attendees
-Blue Cross/Clue Shield
-University leaders
-Agnew's attendance
-Surrogate for the President
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 572-8 (cont.)
-Grover Whalen
-Role
-New York
-Mayor of New York City
-Role
-Comparison to Nixon's Vice Presidential role during Dwight D.
Eisenhower's administration
Refreshment
The President's schedule
-Meeting with [unknown man?]
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 1:32 pm.
Refreshment
Meeting with [unknown man]
-Poll
-Figures
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 1:45 pm.
Prisoners of war [POW] wives meeting
-The President's previous conversation with Henry A. Kissinger
-The President's appearance at convention
-The President's meeting with a group of POW wives
-Political action group
-The President's meeting with committee
-Popular support of POW issue
-Clark M. Clifford
-Maj. Gen. James D. ("Don") Hughes
-The President's possible appearance
The President's schedule
-Appearance in Florida
-California
-Jacksonville
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Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 572-8 (cont.)
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-Weather for Key Biscayne, Florida
White House staff
-Vernon C. Coffey
- Haldeman's conversation with Hughes
-Job considerations
-Qualifications
-New tour of duty
-Continuity
-Hughes
-Management requirements
-Personnel
-Military aide office
-Relationship of staff to the President
-Personnel
-Structure
-Eisenhower
-Army aide
-Navy aide
-Air Force aide
-Hughes
-Performance
-Reductions
-Helicopter units
-Rank of commanding officer
-Coffey
-Junior grade officer
MacGregor
-Report to the President
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 572-8 (cont.)
The President's schedule
-Kissinger
-Meeting with Corneliu Bogdan
-Message from Nicolae Ceausescu to the President
-Date
-Rose Mary Woods
-The President's meeting with Charles S. Rhyne
-Rhyne's meeting with Josip Broz Tito
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 1:32 pm.
-Rhyne
-Commission
-US Ambassador to United Nations [UN] Refugee Commission in Geneva
-Meeting with the President
Delivery of documents
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 1:45 pm.
The President’s schedule
-Meeting with Admiral Charles K. Duncan
-Kissinger
-Commander-in-Chief, US Atlantic Command and Fleet
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] meetings
-Europeans
-US concerns over Atlantic
-The President's meeting with Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS]
-The President's visit to NATO
-Kissinger's note
-Robert H. Finch
Bull entered at 1:40 pm.
The President's schedule
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 572-8 (cont.)
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-Meeting with George P. Shultz
-Time of meeting
-The President's forthcoming meeting with Mansfield and Scott
Bull left at 1:44 pm.
Haldeman left at 1:45 pm.