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Conversation 572-011

TapeTape 572StartTuesday, September 14, 1971 at 3:03 PMEndTuesday, September 14, 1971 at 3:30 PMTape start time02:04:45Tape end time02:29:54ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Hitachi, Prince;  Ushiba, Nobuhiko;  Ushiba, Nobuhiko (Mrs.);  Wickel, James J.;  Mosbacher, Emil, Jr. (Bus);  Haig, Alexander M., Jr.;  Bull, Stephen B.;  White House photographerRecording deviceOval Office
AudioNARA Description

On September 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Prince Hitachi, Nobuhiko Ushiba, Mrs. Nobuhiko Ushiba, James J. Wickel, Emil ("Bus") Mosbacher, Jr., Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Stephen B. Bull, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:03 pm to 3:30 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 572-011 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 572-11

Date: September 14, 1971
Time: 3:03 pm - 3:30 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Prince Hitachi, Princess Hitachi, Nobuhiko Ushiba, Mrs. Nobuhiko
Ushiba, James J. Wickel, Emil Mosbacher, Jr., Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and Stephen B. Bull; the
White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

     Introductions

     [Emperor of Japan] Hirohito
         -Message to the President
         -Meeting with the President
               -Anchorage, Alaska

     Seating arrangements

     Press
             -Pictures
Members of the press entered at an unknown time after 3:03 pm.

Members of the press left at an unknown time before 3:30 pm.

     Prince Hitachi's schedule
          -New York City
          -Miami
          -Houston
                -Space Center
                      -Space travel
          -Royal visit
                -Effect on US public
                      -Relations between countries

     The President's previous visits to Japan
          -Previous meetings with Emperor Hirohito and Empress Hirohito
          -Tokyo
          -Osaka
          -Kyoto
          -Sightseeing
                -Tourism
                -Japan
          -Flight time
                -Supersonic transport [SST]
                      -San Francisco to Japan

     Cancer research
         -Prince Hitachi's interest
                -Visit to National Institute of Health [NIH]
         -US cancer research
         -Private research institute in Japan

     Foreign policy
          -Relations with Japanese cabinet members
          -Relations between the US and Japan
                -National interests
                -Discussions between the US cabinet members and Japanese cabinet members
                     -Points of agreement
                -Effect of relations between US and Japan
                     -Peace
                     -Free, private enterprise
                     -Common interests
          -Japanese
          -Japan
                -Progress since l953
                     -The President's first visit in 1953
                     -The President's last visit
                            -1967
                     -West Germany
          -Japanese-Americans
           -Hawaii
           -California

Prince and Princess Hitachi's schedule
     -Miami
           -Weather
           -Texas
                 -Rate of growth
                 -Texans
     -Miami
           -Tourist attraction
     -Visits to other foreign countries
           -Europe
                 -1965
           -Nepal
                 -Prince Hitachi's appearance at unknown ceremony
                       -The President's acquaintances
                             -California
           -India
           -Nepal
                 -King Mahendra Bir Bikram
                       -The President's previous meeting
                             -Dwight D. Eisenhower
                       -Lion hunting
                 -Queen
                 -American views

Foreign policy
     -Effect of royal visits
           -Asia
           -Africa
           -Latin America
           -Friendships
           -Visits of Charles, Prince of Wales, and Princess Anne of Great Britain
                 -US and Canada
                 -American-British relations

Prince Hitachi's schedule
     -Chartered airliner

Family
     -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
     -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II
           -US Navy
                -Florida
                      -Prince Hitachi's schedule
                            -Miami
                            -Cape Kennedy
                -Jacksonville
     -Tricia Nixon Cox
                 -Cambridge, Massachusetts
                 -Edward R.F. Cox
                        -Law student
                             -Harvard
           -Visits to the President
           -Daughters
                        -Mother
                             -Tokyo
                        -Grandchildren
           -Brothers
                 -Surviving members of the President's family

     The President's schedule

     Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
          -Tea
          -Tour of the White House
               -Japanese Garden
               -Rose Garden
                     -Spring

The President, et al. left at 3:30 pm.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Well, is there anything to have you?
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
to give you your help and prosperity of the people of the United States.
Well, I look forward to seeing you in Anchorage.
Yes.
Good day, Mr. President.
I'm looking forward to meeting you.
Good night.
Good night, Mr. President.
Well, let's settle in here, if you would like.
Mr. President, you will sit here.
And, uh, I think you would sit here, please.
Uh, Mr. Batchelor would sit here.
And, uh, you sit over here if I were...
Oh, my God.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
When you, uh, when you, uh, when you, uh, when you, uh, when you, uh,
And we work in New York.
And then how do you go to Miami?
Yes, I have to do that today.
Yes, and then to, uh, Houston.
Yes.
First place, huh?
Yes.
Yes.
You guys have just had enough to go to New England.
Yes.
And then to Mid-March, I can turn around and see where many people are.
Yes.
If you want to go to Houston, why don't you have to go to Houston?
I think this visit by Your Highnesses to our country is a very
It's a very good idea.
It's very helpful to good relations for the American people to see members of the Royal Family here in our country.
And we're happy that you're here.
I had been to Japan many, many times.
On the first visit, when I went to the emperor and the empress, I then saw a little of the country.
We were in Tokyo and Osaka and Kyoto.
But since then, I've always been in Tokyo.
But I'm glad many Americans come there as tourists to very sunny countries.
You know, I wish I could have made it.
I wish I could have done it.
I wish I could have done it.
I wish I could have done it.
I wish I could have done it.
And we hope, too, that there could be, as we get on, the new, faster planes that can have the SST and the flight time from San Francisco to Japan is maybe three hours, three or four hours.
There will be much more.
We are, we are
I'm not sure if your wife is interested in cancer research.
Yes.
Do you plan a visit to our National Institute of Health?
Oh, you're doing that, isn't it?
Very good, very good.
Well, it is.
Oh, that's right.
We are starting...
I knew it in cancer research, but who knows where the answers could be found.
If it's found by a Japanese, good, unarmed, good-natured specialist.
Do you have a property that's similar to ours in Japan?
Yes, we do.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
He said, I want to be the paradise, the peace of heaven.
I don't know.
I think I don't have a choice.
In fact, I don't need to be in that position.
Oh, I see.
Ah, and he has a meeting with Sakyamuni, that is, the research works.
Oh, I see.
He's doing the research.
He's doing the research.
And we're going to publish it as the coming meeting.
Ah, ah.
That's very good.
It must be very rewarding work.
We had a very good visit with the members of the Canada, the Japanese Canada.
Two countries as great as Japan and the United States have many competing interests, but we find that we, as we said in talk, members of our cabinet, members of your cabinet, that the things we agree on are what are really important, and they are far more important.
There is no question that the relations between friendly relations and close relations between
The government and people of the United States and the government and people of Japan are indispensable for peace and security.
The fact that we are both countries that have chosen the road of free, private enterprise means we have so much in common.
Your people, Your Highness.
I can say this from based on my visits, have one very great asset, drive, hard work, drive, determination.
And the progress that Japan has made since 1953, when I was there first,
1967, when I was there the last time, is unequal in any place in the world.
The only other record progress that may approach it is when you consider one level going to another.
That period of time might be in Germany, but I think Japan is more.
When I say I went to Japan, I mean Japan.
I mean Japan.
I mean Japan.
I mean Japan.
I mean Japan.
I mean Japan.
I mean Japan.
I mean Japan.
We want to that many Americans of Japanese background should be part of our country, not just in Hawaii.
We've got to take that back some time.
We've got to do a good job.
We've got to do a good job.
We've got to do a good job.
We've got to do a good job.
In Miami, you will find it very warm at this time of year.
Miami, yeah, that's it.
Houston, too.
Houston is, don't tell them.
It's been, I don't know, taking long.
It's one of the fastest roads.
I didn't say Houston myself.
The people of Praxis have a great vitality.
They're much, much more pure people than I.
They're very strong people.
And the...
It has a great, it's one of our great tourist places to attend.
Usually more in the winter.
I got a place in San Diego, Cincinnati.
My funeral was in New York.
What other countries in the world have you visited to?
Other besides the United States.
Yes.
Over the years.
Yes.
I have to go to Europe.
That is in France.
Yes.
And in, I think, I have to go to Hawaii.
I have to go to India.
I have to get back.
I have some very good friends who attended that ceremony in California.
I see.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
He used to come to my house.
He's still a great friend of mine.
He said, I, uh, you know, I, uh, you know, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh, I was, uh,
See, Nepal, to most of us, is a mysterious land, and it's not a very good place to go there.
I could have been there, but I just seem to get it through that.
Well, I think it's very helpful for the international relations for members of the royal family like your highness.
to take trips.
I think it's helpful to take more.
I mean, Asia, Africa, Latin America.
The
The people of the world, they like to see what hurts.
But also you bring them, as you go, the people of Japan, the people of France and Europe, which is earned.
For example, when the Duke of Wales
Richard Sand came here a year ago.
He went to Canada and parts of the United States.
It's a very, very good for American-British relations.
He was a physiognomist.
He signed my class with me.
He's in a big academic division.
He traveled a lot.
He went to Japan a lot.
Okay.
Here.
Okay.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes, that's right.
And he's out in the Navy.
And he's there living in Florida.
But you're going to Miami or Cape Town.
Miami.
Well, they're Jacksonville.
Jacksonville.
.
.
.
.
.
.
It's much better.
Yes, quite often.
One does it now in Cambridge, Harvard.
Her husband is a lawyer, law student.
But they come in maybe every two or three weeks.
Not often enough.
No, please.
I don't like to see the horse get married.
You know, I'll keep it.
I'll keep it.
I'll keep it.
I'll keep it.
I'll keep it.
I'll keep it.
You have sisters?
I am the youngest of all.
The youngest of three?
Three and a half.
Three and a half?
Yes.
Are all married?
Yes, are three and a half.
So my mother left, you know.
Yes.
Oh, does she live in Tokyo?
Yes.
But my mother is still busy now to take care of her grandchildren.
Grandchildren.
You have a grandchild.
Yes, yes, yes.
It's going to be very hard.
Well, we can, yeah, we are very proud of the daughters now.
I don't know how to say it, but here's the other one.
What is that?
In my family, they were all boys, not girls.
Ah, I don't know.
What other, you know, what other?
So we got, I don't know.
What did you have?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
There were five boys and I, and I found it.
There were only two brothers living down there.
Oh, I see.
Oh, that's funny.
We each other, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Sometimes it's very hard.
But I used to work out in the gym.
I used to work out in the gym.
I used to work out in the gym.
Oh!
Oh!
Tea.
I think this is the next expansion for tea.
Oh, this is next expansion.
Oh, that's right.
And now.
Yes, sir.
Oh, yeah.
Probably a little better.
Well, if you will, next time, Steve, I want you to be sure to see the house.
Oh, I don't know.
There's better tea over there than he makes it.
We are.
Japanese artists are up and making art again.
This is called, uh, in the, uh, in the spring, spring, they took, uh, they took, uh, they took, uh,
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