{"conversationCode":"572-013","tapeNumber":572,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-572-013","startDateTime":"1971-09-14T20:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-14T20:42:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Sep-1971","startTime":"4:40 PM","endDate":"14-Sep-1971","endTime":"4:42 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:40 pm and 4:42 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 572-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 572-13\n\nDate: September 14, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 4:40 pm and 4:42 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Barber\n          -Henry A. Kissinger\n          -George P. Shultz\n               -Meeting\n          -Barber\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 4:42 pm.","filename":["572-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:33:53","tapeEnd":"03:34:33","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"572-012","nextCode":"572-014","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":29.11,"text":"I'll see you in a minute."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his personal aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate his late-afternoon scheduling and upcoming appointments. The discussion focused on finalizing arrangements for meetings with Henry A. Kissinger and George P. Shultz. The President also factored in time for a personal grooming appointment with his barber during the briefing.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Stephen B. Bull","Henry A. Kissinger","George P. Shultz","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T23:58:57.184Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","stephen-b-bull","henry-a-kissinger","george-p-shultz","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":29,"audioFiles":[{"file":"572-013.mp3","bytes":1171122,"durationSec":29.15,"bitrate":321433,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.635Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/572-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/572-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/572/conversation-572-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}