{"conversationCode":"574-008","tapeNumber":574,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-574-008","startDateTime":"1971-09-17T15:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-17T15:43:00.000Z","startDate":"17-Sep-1971","startTime":"11:41 AM","endDate":"17-Sep-1971","endTime":"11:43 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; [Unknown person(s)]; Gardella, Kay;","description":"On September 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, unknown person(s), and Kay Gardella met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:41 am and 11:43 am. 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Bull and an unnamed individual to discuss his schedule, specifically concerning Representative Jack F. Kemp. Following their departure, the President engaged in a cordial phone conversation with television critic Kay Gardella. Nixon praised Gardella’s review of a recent broadcast, specifically highlighting her coverage of his San Clemente residence, and engaged her in casual conversation regarding the television landscape, including the show 'Columbo.'","topics":["Presidential Scheduling","Jack F. 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