Conversation: 574-009
Prev:  574-008 Next: 574-010Start Date: 17-Sep-1971 11:45 AM
End Date: 17-Sep-1971 12:01 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kemp, Jack F.; Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; [Unknown person(s)]; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:53:43
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:08:36
NARA Description:
On September 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Jack F. Kemp, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:45 am to 12:01 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 574-009 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 574-9 Date: September 17, 1971 Time: 11:45 am - 12:01 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with Jack F. Kemp and Alexander M. Haig, Jr Greetings The President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 11:45 am and 12:01 pm. [Conversation No. 574-9A] Vote -Status -Timing [End of telephone conversation] Greetings Seating Southeast Asia Kemp's trip to Vietnam and Laos -Plain of jars -Paul N. McCloskey, Jr. -Comments -Loatian attitudes -Father Manger -McCloskey -Helicopter ride -Kemp’s conversations -Return to villages -Pathet Lao -North Vietnamese -Speeches -Herbert G. Klein -New Hampshire 42 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 574-9 (cont.) -Kemp's conversation with Haig -McCloskey -Statements -Kemp’s view of accuracy -Impact -US role -Kemp's trip -Interviews with leaders of villages -Refugees -North Vietnam, Pathet Lao compared to Laos -Cambodia -Laos -US -McCloskey’s arguments -Future political situation -Prospects -Dinner -Ellsworth F. Bunker -Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr. -National Football League [NFL] football tour of Vietnam, 1968 -Bart Starr, Lance Alworth -Tet offensive -Kemp’s meeting with Nguyen Van Thieu -Presidential elections in Saigon -Kemp’s reaction -Misunderstanding -Thieu -The President’s statement -US stance towards South Vietnamese government -Ngo Dinh Diem -Death -Thieu -Democracy -American -British -Status of aid -Foreign countries -Non-contested elections -Percentage of world -Elections in South Vietnam -Opponents of Thieu 43 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 574-9 (cont.) -Situation -Diem -Referendum -US position -Status of aid -Compared to Africa -Aid -Contested elections -Presidents -Prime ministers -State Department -Henry M. ("Scoop") Jackson -Vietnamization -George S. McGover -Shopping -Photograph -1968 -Comments -Arming -Commerce -Growth -Building -Saigon Congress -President’s legislative program -Kemp’s support -Kemp’s district -Percentage of Catholics -Kemp’s Anglo-Saxon background -Jewish constituency -Sale of [Phantom] jets to Israel -Parochial schools -Catholics -New York -Number of children -Money -Amount -New money -Building schools -Facilities 44 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 574-9 (cont.) -Attendance -Schools open -Supreme Court decision ********************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 24s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 ********************************************************************** National defense -National defense funding -Conservatives -Strategy -Anti-ballistic missile [ABM] -Military service draft issue -Vote -US position in the world -Negotiations -USSR -People's Republic of China [PRC] -Stance -Possible elimination -Volunteer army -Timing 45 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 574-9 (cont.) Foreign relations -Israelis -Kemp’s Jewish Constituents -Type of government -USSR -Balance of power -Jet sales to Israel -Position in relation to the US -Kemp’s role of a member of Congress -Comparison with the role of the President ************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 1m 27s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 ************************************************************************** Football -Washington Redskins -Billy Kilmer -Passing ability -Comparison to Christian A. (ΑSonny≅) Jurgenson -Background -University of Southern California at Los Angeles [UCLA] -New Orleans -Brent Sanders -Minnesota Vikings -Loss of quarterback -Joe Kapp -Baltimore Colts -Earl Morrall -Buffalo Bills 46 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 574-9 (cont.) -Dennis Shaw -Background -San Diego State University -Don Horn -Green Bay Packers -Denver Broncos -Buffalo Bills -Shaw The President’s schedule -Buffalo -Terence Cardinal Cooke -Anniversary of diocese -Invitation to the President -Time Gifts The President’s schedule -Dwight L. Chapin -The President's possible attendance Kemp and Haig left at 12:01 pm.