{"conversationCode":"574-011","tapeNumber":574,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-574-011","startDateTime":"1971-09-17T16:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-17T16:14:00.000Z","startDate":"17-Sep-1971","startTime":"12:05 PM","endDate":"17-Sep-1971","endTime":"12:14 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Gonzalez, Aida L.; Luther, Edwin R.; Luther, Edwin R. (Mrs.); Baker, Frank K.; Crowe, Albert E. (Mrs.); Marrs, Mabel; Davis, Harold; Meek, John; Wilson, Michael; Cashen, Henry C., II; White House photographer;","description":"On September 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Aida L. Gonzalez, Edwin R. Luther, Mrs. Edwin R. Luther, Frank K. Baker, Mrs. Albert E. Crowe, Mabel Marrs, Harold Davis, John Meek, Michael Wilson, Henry C. Cashen, II, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:05 pm to 12:14 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 574-011 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 574-11\n\nDate: September 17, 1971\nTime: 12:05 pm - 12:14 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Aida L. Gonzalez, Edwin R. Luther, Mrs. Edwin R. Luther, Frank K.\nBaker, Mrs Albert E. Crowe, Mrs. Mabel Marrs, Harold Davis, John Meek, Michael Wilson and\nHenry C. Cashen II; the White House photographer and members of the press were present at the\nbeginning of the meeting.\n\n     Frank K. Baker\n          -Position\n          -Background\n                -Milwaukee, Wisconsin\n\n     Mrs. Albert E. Crowe\n\n     Des Moines, Iowa\n\nEdwin R. Luther\n\nMrs. Edwin R. Luther\n\nMrs. Mabel Marrs\n     -Vancouver, Washington\n     -National Bowling Council\n\nHarold Davis, John Meek\n\nGreetings\n\nBowling\n    -Recognition\n    -The President's schedule\n          -Washington, DC\n          -Florida and California\n                -Golf\n    -Participants\n          -Photograph\n                -Number\n                -Countries\n                      -Number\n                -Comparison to Olympics\n                -Ceremony\n                -Copies\n    -The President's family\n          -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n          -Tricia Nixon Cox\n          -Julie Eisenhower\n          -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II\n                -Score\n    -The President's score\n\nPresidential gifts\n     -Presidential seal\n           -Cufflinks\n           -Stephen B. Bull\n\nWhite House bowling alley\n\n           -Bowling\n\n     Programs\n          -Bowling ceremonies\n          -The President's autograph\n               -Hall of Fame\n                     -Bowling\n               -Pen\n          -Council for Physical Fitness\n               -Participation by bowling members\n\n     Bowling as sport\n         -The President's score\n         -Competition\n         -Competitors\n         -Cost\n               -Participation\n         -Time\n         -Family sport\n         -Handicap\n               -Number in team\n\nThe President, Mrs. Gonzalez, et al. left at 12:14 pm.","filename":["574a.mp3","574b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:15:07","tapeEnd":"03:21:33","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Gonzalez, Aida L.","Luther, Edwin R.","Luther, Edwin R. (Mrs.)","Baker, Frank K.","Crowe, Albert E. 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York."},{"start":11775.68,"end":11775.84,"text":"Syracuse."},{"start":11775.86,"end":11776.47,"text":"I'm from the Big Orange."},{"start":11776.49,"end":11776.94,"text":"I'm from the Big Orange."},{"start":11776.97,"end":11777.1,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":11777.12,"end":11777.26,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":11800.89,"end":11801.43,"text":"of the visual in your hands."},{"start":11801.45,"end":11802.35,"text":"And the visual champion, he's the perfect host."},{"start":11802.37,"end":11802.93,"text":"The perfect host, I'm honored."},{"start":11802.95,"end":11803.73,"text":"And here's to the world champion, Dustin."},{"start":11803.75,"end":11805.39,"text":"And Mr. Luther, you're a senior in Wisconsin, and he's the man of the visual champion."},{"start":11805.41,"end":11806.05,"text":"You have to be kept in Wisconsin."},{"start":11806.07,"end":11807.79,"text":"And there's a remark in all the world of the years, the thing that started every 421 years."},{"start":11828.87,"end":11829.75,"text":"What do you want to eat in the cold?"},{"start":11829.81,"end":11830.71,"text":"Come on, you can start over now."},{"start":11830.73,"end":11830.83,"text":"Great."},{"start":11830.87,"end":11831.47,"text":"And this is Mrs. Lutheran."},{"start":11831.49,"end":11832.09,"text":"Yes, I'm here with you both."},{"start":11832.11,"end":11832.83,"text":"You're watching."},{"start":11832.85,"end":11833.38,"text":"And this is Mrs. Mars."},{"start":11833.4,"end":11833.45,"text":"Yes."},{"start":11833.48,"end":11834.06,"text":"From Vancouver, Washington."},{"start":11834.08,"end":11835.46,"text":"And she's a resident of the National Bowling Council."},{"start":11835.48,"end":11836.8,"text":"She also serves in the National Bowling Council."},{"start":11853.65,"end":11856.79,"text":"Mr. Davis will then have a morning penicillin on the council desk for the city."},{"start":11856.81,"end":11859.86,"text":"And Mr. Tommy Power also has a penicillin on the board."},{"start":11859.92,"end":11861.18,"text":"And Mr. Jim McAdams will come here."},{"start":11861.24,"end":11862.8,"text":"Oh yes, right, right, good to see you."},{"start":11862.86,"end":11867.08,"text":"I'm going to tell them today that you are a John Lee who seems to be working at the council on the city."},{"start":11867.1,"end":11868.48,"text":"And this is what it seems."},{"start":11868.5,"end":11868.72,"text":"Go back."},{"start":11868.78,"end":11869.58,"text":"I'm going to tell the city."},{"start":11880.57,"end":11881.47,"text":"real frail, but do you want to recognize?"},{"start":11881.51,"end":11882.27,"text":"No, I'm not supposed to be here."},{"start":11882.29,"end":11884.71,"text":"It's, you know, except when I'm in Washington, for example, except when I go to Florida or California."},{"start":11884.73,"end":11886.09,"text":"I mainly, I like to go, like, I play golf on an arcade all the time."},{"start":11886.11,"end":11886.74,"text":"But, uh, I'm not going to be here."},{"start":11886.75,"end":11887.58,"text":"That's why I'm not going to be here."},{"start":11887.59,"end":11888.11,"text":"I'm not going to be here."},{"start":11888.14,"end":11888.61,"text":"I'm not going to be here."},{"start":11908.67,"end":11911.79,"text":"Well, we think that's wonderful."},{"start":11911.83,"end":11912.75,"text":"Hey, look at that."},{"start":11912.87,"end":11915.31,"text":"That's a picture of a national installation."},{"start":11915.45,"end":11918.15,"text":"There were about 400 participants from 13 countries."},{"start":11918.39,"end":11921.95,"text":"And this was the parade of the nations ahead of time."},{"start":11922.01,"end":11923.61,"text":"It's like the Olympics."},{"start":11923.73,"end":11928.43,"text":"Yes, and the ceremonies done in the Olympic Hall of Fame."},{"start":11928.53,"end":11931.14,"text":"Hold it a little tighter so we can get a picture."},{"start":11931.18,"end":11933,"text":"You've got to get us all on a hit."},{"start":11933.06,"end":11935.44,"text":"We want to get each of you a copy of it."},{"start":11935.48,"end":11936.42,"text":"One minute."},{"start":11936.44,"end":11936.76,"text":"Three minutes."},{"start":11939.5,"end":11947.22,"text":"And you know, we're also very thrilled that some of this recognition is of all of us."},{"start":11947.34,"end":11956.04,"text":"Oh yeah, and both of our girls, and David, and Patricia, David is a great inventor, to be most of all."},{"start":11956.06,"end":11959.72,"text":"But I've been over 200 more often than he is."},{"start":11959.88,"end":11963.7,"text":"I can remember the numbers."},{"start":11967.03,"end":11971.28,"text":"We want to give you a little remembrance, each of you."},{"start":11971.3,"end":11974.86,"text":"There's people who are champions or managed champions."},{"start":11974.96,"end":11978.5,"text":"These are the Presidential Conflicts."},{"start":11978.7,"end":11983.18,"text":"It has a seal of the office in the 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