{"conversationCode":"574-012","tapeNumber":574,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-574-012","startDateTime":"1971-09-17T16:14:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-17T16:34:00.000Z","startDate":"17-Sep-1971","startTime":"12:14 PM","endDate":"17-Sep-1971","endTime":"12:34 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Butterfield, Alexander P.; United States Secret Service agents;","description":"On September 17, 1971, Alexander P. Butterfield and United States Secret Service agents met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:14 pm and 12:34 pm. 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Butterfield [?] met with unknown people [Secret Service agent].\n\n     The President’s location\n          -Bowling alley\n\nButterfield [?] and the unknown people [Secret Service agents] left at an unknown time before\n12:34 pm.\n\nUnknown people met.\n\n     Greetings\n\n     [Unintelligible]\n\n     President’s schedule\n          -Meeting with Ginger Rogers\n\n     [Unintelligible]\n\nThis recording was cut off at an unknown time before 12:34 pm.","filename":["574a.mp3","574b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:21:33","tapeEnd":"03:24:23","participantsList":["Butterfield, Alexander P.","United States Secret Service agents"],"prevCode":"574-011","nextCode":"574-013","tapeTranscriptFile":"574a.mp3,574b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":12093,"end":12094.11,"text":"But it's a great sport."},{"start":12094.21,"end":12094.79,"text":"It's good."},{"start":12094.99,"end":12095.95,"text":"It's competitive."},{"start":12096.43,"end":12097.23,"text":"It's clean."},{"start":12097.69,"end":12103.53,"text":"They brought nice people, good people, good people to the house."},{"start":12105.21,"end":12113.33,"text":"And the other thing is it doesn't cost a great deal to participate."},{"start":12113.41,"end":12116.57,"text":"It doesn't cost a great deal."},{"start":12116.61,"end":12118.75,"text":"So everybody can do it."},{"start":12119.23,"end":12122.67,"text":"It doesn't take too much time."},{"start":12122.72,"end":12125.94,"text":"What we like about it, too, is the family sports."},{"start":12125.96,"end":12127.38,"text":"You know, that's true."},{"start":12127.44,"end":12128.3,"text":"And you can..."},{"start":12129.98,"end":12131.88,"text":"I guess you can handicap them pretty well."},{"start":12131.92,"end":12142.03,"text":"You know, you're great at handicapping if you play it poor, but you know, you're just moving the people around, and it's a lot of fun."},{"start":12142.05,"end":12144.03,"text":"Well, thank you again for the walk-over."},{"start":12144.05,"end":12144.29,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":12144.33,"end":12146.63,"text":"I'm going to see the officer lead the way here."},{"start":12162.57,"end":12185.25,"text":"How you doing?"},{"start":12248.82,"end":12249.14,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":12249.16,"end":12251.71,"text":"It is Miss Rogers."},{"start":12251.73,"end":12253.12,"text":"I don't care who that is."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":12093,"end":12289.875,"startMethod":"tape_time","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"Alexander P. Butterfield met with Secret Service agents to discuss the logistical arrangements for the President's upcoming activities, including the President's use of the White House bowling alley. The participants engaged in light conversation regarding the merits of bowling as a family-friendly sport before briefly addressing the President's scheduled appointment with Ginger Rogers. The meeting concluded as the agents prepared to coordinate the President's movements for the remainder of the day.","topics":["Alexander P. 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