{"conversationCode":"580-004","tapeNumber":580,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-580-004","startDateTime":"1971-09-29T14:21:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-29T14:33:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Sep-1971","startTime":"10:21 AM","endDate":"29-Sep-1971","endTime":"10:33 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); [Unknown person(s)]; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:21 am to 10:33 am. 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(“Pat”) Nixon\n           -Trip to Florida\n                 -Elementary school visit\n     -Meeting between the President and Connally, Shultz, Herbert Stein, Paul W.\n          McCracken\n           -Peter G. Peterson\n           -William L. Safire, John D. Ehrlichman\n           -Purpose\n           -Other attendees\n                 -Stein\n                 -McCracken, Ezra Solomon\n     -Florida trip\n\nUS economic situation\n     -Preparation for forthcoming speech\n     -Stein\n           -Presidential speeches\n                 -Memos\n     -The President's speech\n           -Possible reactions\n           -Council of Economic Policy\n\nThe President's schedule\n     -Dates\n     -Quadriad\n          -Possibility\n\nThe President's public appearances\n     -National League of Families Convention, September 28, 1971\n          -Ronald L. Ziegler, Richard A. Moore\n          -The President's entry into room at events\n                 -Audience reactions to announced compared to surprise appearance\n                 -Press coverage\n\nAn unknown person entered at an unknown time after 10:21 am.\n\n     The President's schedule\n\nThe unknown person left at an unknown time before 10:33 am.\n\n     The President's public appearances\n          -National League of Families convention\n               -Audience reaction\n               -News coverage\n               -Total overall impact\n               -News coverage\n                      -Times of news program\n               -Audience reaction\n                      -Passage of resolution by National League of Families\n                            -Edward M. Kennedy\n          -Future handling\n               -Campaign\n\nStephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:21 am.\n\n     Connally’s message\n         -Forthcoming meeting with Pierre-Paul Schweitzer\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:33 am.\n\n     Connally's views of talks\n         -Arthur F. Burns's reaction\n\nHaldeman left at 10:33 pm.","filename":["580a.mp3","580b.mp3","580b_i.mp3","580c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:19:13","tapeEnd":"00:26:09","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","[Unknown person(s)]","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"580-003","nextCode":"580-005","tapeTranscriptFile":"580a.mp3,580b.mp3,580c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":1165.97,"end":1166.69,"text":"Mae'n bwysig i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1166.71,"end":1168.68,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1168.7,"end":1170.54,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1170.56,"end":1172.04,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1172.06,"end":1172.9,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1172.94,"end":1173.96,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1173.98,"end":1175.94,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1176.16,"end":1177.28,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1177.32,"end":1180.14,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1180.22,"end":1181.68,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1181.7,"end":1184.9,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1184.92,"end":1185.78,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1185.8,"end":1187.72,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1187.74,"end":1188.5,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gweld."},{"start":1188.52,"end":1189.34,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn gallu gw"},{"start":1190.35,"end":1195.11,"text":"Beth byddwn i'n gwneud yw..."},{"start":1220.35,"end":1229.27,"text":"Yn ystod y pryd cyntaf, yn ystod y ddwy, yma, iawn, ac rydw i'n mynd i lawr i'r traiecter yng Nghymru, ac rydyn ni'n gobeithio y byddwn ni'n cael hynny'n dda."},{"start":1230.49,"end":1231.8,"text":"Bydd hynny'n dal i fynd i lawr."},{"start":1232.21,"end":1233.86,"text":"Byddwn i'n ceisio mynd i lawr o'r 2 o'r o'r clod."},{"start":1233.94,"end":1235.62,"text":"Mae'r amser yn lawr."},{"start":1235.7,"end":1240.48,"text":"Gallwch chi ddod i lawr yna yn ystod y ddwy."},{"start":1240.62,"end":1241.18,"text":"Iawn, iawn."},{"start":1242.08,"end":1242.16,"text":"Iawn."},{"start":1242.93,"end":1248.92,"text":"yna roedd yna roedd yna roedd yna roedd yna roedd yna roedd"},{"start":1257.42,"end":1260.69,"text":"Dwi'n gallu gwneud hynny."},{"start":1261.47,"end":1266.83,"text":"Dwi ddim eisiau cael yr holl fag y mae'r bobl yn rannu ymlaen."},{"start":1266.85,"end":1271.26,"text":"Felly, gadewch i George ddweud bod Connelly yno."},{"start":1271.3,"end":1277.38,"text":"Dwi'n credu efallai y bydd Connelly a George yn ymwneud â Stein."},{"start":1279.96,"end":1282.9,"text":"Wel, rwy'n gweld rwy'n credu."},{"start":1283.18,"end":1295.2,"text":"Rwy'n gweld, rwy'n gweld, rwy'n gweld, rwy'n gweld, rwy'n gweld, rwy'n gweld, rwy'n gweld, rwy'n gweld,"},{"start":1305.92,"end":1312.04,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i chi ddweud wrthym."},{"start":1312.26,"end":1326.48,"text":"Dwi'n meddwl efallai efallai efallai efallai efallai efallai efallai efallai efallai efallai efallai efallai"},{"start":1337.82,"end":1341.46,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi ddewis sut rydyn ni'n mynd i'w wneud."},{"start":1341.5,"end":1346.72,"text":"Maen nhw eisoes yn paratoi'r holl beth hwn."},{"start":1346.8,"end":1353.91,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud wrthych chi, pan dwi'n gweld hynny, sut bwysig yw peidio â'i wneud."},{"start":1356.43,"end":1359.49,"text":"Mae hynny'n ddiddorol iawn."},{"start":1359.51,"end":1364.75,"text":"Fe wnaethoch chi ddweud wrth i chi ddweud, beth fyddwch chi'n meddwl amdanyn nhw yn y sbith?"},{"start":1364.95,"end":1367.1,"text":"Mae hynny'n wirioneddol iawn."},{"start":1367.14,"end":1368.92,"text":"Mae hynny'n wirioneddol iawn."},{"start":1368.98,"end":1371.26,"text":"Mae hynny'n wirioneddol iawn."},{"start":1371.28,"end":1373.52,"text":"Mae hynny'n wirioneddol iawn."},{"start":1373.56,"end":1375.7,"text":"Mae hynny'n wirioneddol iawn."},{"start":1386.68,"end":1391.63,"text":"rydyn ni wedi'u gwneud yn ffwrdd 6 a 7, ond mae 6 a 7 yn hollbwysig yn glir."},{"start":1391.65,"end":1398.33,"text":"Ac yn y bôn, roedden ni'n cael gwahoddiad pwysig ac rydw i ddim yn gwybod beth fyddwch chi'n mynd i'w wneud ar hyn o bryd."},{"start":1398.35,"end":1414.2,"text":"Rydyn ni'n mynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd i fynd"},{"start":1416.14,"end":1418.6,"text":"Dwi'n dweud wrthych chi un o'r rheswmau oedd hynny."},{"start":1418.62,"end":1419.28,"text":"Mae'n wych."},{"start":1419.3,"end":1422.52,"text":"Mae'n rhaid i ni fynd ymlaen oherwydd mae yna mwy a mwy o bobl sydd ddim yn deall hynny."},{"start":1422.56,"end":1435.93,"text":"Pan fyddwch chi'n mynd i mewn i'r ystafell, rydych chi'n gwybod, gyda rheswmau a chyflawniadau, ac maen nhw'n gwybod yn yr awr cyn i chi fynd i'r ystafell a'r holl eraill, mae'r cynulleidfa yn bwysig iawn."},{"start":1435.95,"end":1438.87,"text":"Maen nhw'n mynd i gofyn i Christi ei wneud."},{"start":1438.89,"end":1442.75,"text":"Pan fyddwch chi'n mynd i mewn i'r ystafell, yn hollol anhygoel,"},{"start":1443.71,"end":1445.05,"text":"Mae'r gynulleidfa'n dod ar blwg."},{"start":1445.07,"end":1446.11,"text":"Mae'n mynd i fod yn bersonol."},{"start":1446.13,"end":1448.57,"text":"Dwi ddim yn rhoi llwyddiant p'un a yw'n cael ei gynnal neu ddim."},{"start":1448.59,"end":1449.65,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1449.69,"end":1451.55,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1451.57,"end":1452.35,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1452.37,"end":1453.95,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1453.97,"end":1454.57,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1454.59,"end":1456.05,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1456.07,"end":1456.63,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1456.65,"end":1458.37,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1458.41,"end":1459.61,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1459.63,"end":1460.11,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1460.13,"end":1461.41,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1461.43,"end":1462.01,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1462.03,"end":1463.05,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1463.47,"end":1464.35,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1464.39,"end":1465.75,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1466.17,"end":1467.17,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei gynnal."},{"start":1467.34,"end":1468.02,"text":"Roedd yn cael ei"},{"start":1468.65,"end":1476.18,"text":"Roedd rhai o'r trwblwyr wedi mynd ymlaen i fod y tu allan ac roedd ganddyn nhw syniad neu rywbeth fel hyn."},{"start":1476.58,"end":1481.3,"text":"Ac roedd hynny'n dweud, roedden nhw ddim yn gwybod fy mod i'n mynd."},{"start":1481.34,"end":1485.8,"text":"Roeddwn i allan pan oeddwn i'n mynd, ac nawr byddwch chi'n cael rhywfaint o'r pres."},{"start":1485.84,"end":1490.77,"text":"Roedd hynny'n dweud, roedd hynny'n dweud, roedd 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