{"conversationCode":"581-009","tapeNumber":581,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-581-009","startDateTime":"1971-09-30T16:51:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-30T16:58:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Sep-1971","startTime":"12:51 PM","endDate":"30-Sep-1971","endTime":"12:58 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Olson, L. Scott; Sliwa, Curtis; French, Jimmy; Markwell, Kevin; Messina, Christopher; Hynes, Bruce; Byers, David; Bell, David, Jr.; Norris, Glenn; Hall, Millard; Neeld, John; Neurschwander, John; McHale, Gretchn; Colson, Charles W.; Ball, Neal; Shumway, DeVan L.;","description":"On September 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, L. Scott Olson, Curtis Sliwa, Jimmy French, Kevin Markwell, Christopher Messina, Bruce Hynes, David Byers, David Bell, Jr., Glenn Norris, Millard Hall, John Neeld, John Neurschwander, Gretchn McHale, Charles W. Colson, Neal Ball, and DeVan L. Shumway met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:51 pm to 12:58 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 581-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 581-9\n\nDate: September 30, 1971\nTime: 12:51 pm - 12:58 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with L. Scott Olson, Curtis Sliwa, Jimmy French, Kevin Markwell,\nChristopher Messina, Bruce Hynes, David Bell, Jr., Glenn Norris, Millard Hall, David Byers,\nJohn Neeld, John Neurschwander, Gretchen McHale, Charles W. Colson, Neal Ball and DeVan\nL. Shumway.\n[The White House photographer and members of the press were present at the beginning of the\nmeeting]\n\n     Greeting\n\n     Introduction\n           -L. Scott Olson\n\n     Home towns of carriers\n\n     Jimmy French, Philadelphia Daily News\n         -Support for the President\n\n     Presidential gifts\n\n     Delivery of newspapers\n\nOlson, et al. left at 12:58 pm.","filename":["581-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:37:30","tapeEnd":"02:44:08","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Olson, L. Scott","Sliwa, Curtis","French, Jimmy","Markwell, Kevin","Messina, Christopher","Hynes, Bruce","Byers, David","Bell, David, Jr.","Norris, Glenn","Hall, Millard","Neeld, John","Neurschwander, John","McHale, Gretchn","Colson, Charles W.","Ball, Neal","Shumway, DeVan L."],"prevCode":"581-008","nextCode":"581-010","transcript":[{"start":4.67,"end":7.88,"text":"President, this is Captain Olsen from Project Amnesty."},{"start":9.95,"end":30.17,"text":"So you've got all the carriers."},{"start":30.19,"end":30.51,"text":"That's my prize."},{"start":30.53,"end":31.01,"text":"We have them every year."},{"start":31.03,"end":31.63,"text":"How do you put your orders in?"},{"start":31.65,"end":32.13,"text":"Well, that speaks to it."},{"start":32.15,"end":32.73,"text":"We're very happy to have you."},{"start":32.75,"end":33.39,"text":"First time we've sent a carrier."},{"start":33.41,"end":33.65,"text":"Three years."},{"start":33.67,"end":34.03,"text":"You're number one."},{"start":34.05,"end":35.02,"text":"So if you think I'm scrimmaging, I should do it."},{"start":35.03,"end":36.62,"text":"First time you've seen me, what is your pretty good, best prize for the season?"},{"start":36.64,"end":36.92,"text":"Oh, sure, pal."},{"start":36.94,"end":37.1,"text":"Perfect."},{"start":37.12,"end":37.28,"text":"Perfect."},{"start":37.3,"end":37.46,"text":"Perfect."},{"start":37.48,"end":37.7,"text":"You got it."},{"start":37.72,"end":37.92,"text":"All right."},{"start":41.51,"end":46.78,"text":"."},{"start":46.8,"end":47.18,"text":"."},{"start":47.2,"end":47.22,"text":"."},{"start":48.37,"end":58.83,"text":"."},{"start":81.96,"end":104.88,"text":"How's your job?"},{"start":104.9,"end":105.1,"text":"Very good."},{"start":105.12,"end":105.32,"text":"Very good."},{"start":105.34,"end":105.64,"text":"How's your job?"},{"start":105.66,"end":105.86,"text":"Very good."},{"start":124.94,"end":151.07,"text":"All right, here's the postcard."},{"start":151.09,"end":151.66,"text":"The news, how have you been?"},{"start":151.68,"end":151.96,"text":"Oh, God, good."},{"start":151.98,"end":152.3,"text":"Well, thank you."},{"start":152.32,"end":152.64,"text":"Well, thank you."},{"start":152.66,"end":152.98,"text":"Well, thank you."},{"start":153,"end":153.32,"text":"Well, thank you."},{"start":153.34,"end":153.66,"text":"Well, thank you."},{"start":153.68,"end":154,"text":"Well, thank you."},{"start":154.02,"end":154.34,"text":"Well, thank you."},{"start":154.81,"end":179.33,"text":"All right."},{"start":179.35,"end":179.55,"text":"All right."},{"start":179.57,"end":179.77,"text":"All right."},{"start":263.75,"end":288.9,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":288.92,"end":289.74,"text":"This is the, uh, this is the central one."},{"start":289.76,"end":289.92,"text":"Morning."},{"start":289.94,"end":290.38,"text":"What's the door knock?"},{"start":290.4,"end":291.12,"text":"I can knock on that door any second."},{"start":291.15,"end":291.33,"text":"I see it."},{"start":291.35,"end":291.53,"text":"I see it."},{"start":291.55,"end":291.73,"text":"I didn't."},{"start":291.75,"end":291.95,"text":"Very good."},{"start":291.97,"end":292.17,"text":"Very good."},{"start":292.19,"end":292.43,"text":"There we go."},{"start":293.06,"end":314.69,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":314.71,"end":315.59,"text":"We're going to give you something else, too."},{"start":315.61,"end":316.91,"text":"We thought... Do you see this little... That's the seal of the..."},{"start":316.93,"end":317.41,"text":"Here, there's the floor."},{"start":317.43,"end":318.13,"text":"It's all the way up here, isn't it?"},{"start":318.15,"end":319.21,"text":"And each of you, you're going to have the same thing."},{"start":319.23,"end":319.94,"text":"We'll see if it does it for a time."},{"start":319.95,"end":320.68,"text":"You've got to have something coming."},{"start":320.69,"end":321.22,"text":"I'll just have you get it."},{"start":324.23,"end":343.19,"text":"Well, we've got the day."},{"start":343.21,"end":343.65,"text":"Thank you, Dr. Thomas."},{"start":343.67,"end":344.75,"text":"I thought, what a thank you that we have for the most."},{"start":344.77,"end":345.59,"text":"Oh, I greatly admire all the voters here."},{"start":345.61,"end":345.85,"text":"Let's do it."},{"start":345.87,"end":346.21,"text":"Delivered papers."},{"start":346.24,"end":347.08,"text":"They've heard these speeches all the time."},{"start":348.6,"end":349.04,"text":"I know it's competing."},{"start":349.06,"end":349.54,"text":"It's a great profession."},{"start":349.56,"end":350.82,"text":"Some of the people that I've met, my mom-in-law, you know that."},{"start":350.84,"end":351.54,"text":"Delivered papers from time to time."},{"start":352.26,"end":356.97,"text":"Thank you very much."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with L. 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