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Conversation: 585-008

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Start Date: 5-Oct-1971 4:33 PM

End Date: 5-Oct-1971 5:12 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Razak, Abdul (Tun)Haig, Alexander M., Jr.White House operator[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:26:01

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:07:38

585a.mp3

585b.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Tun Abdul Razak, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., White House operator, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:33 pm to 5:12 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 585-008 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 585-8

Date: October 5, 1971
Time: 4:33 pm - 5:12 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Prime Minister Tun Abdul Razak, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., press
photographers and the White House photographer.

     Greetings
                                             13

                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 585-7 (cont.)



     Photographs

     Razak's trip

The White House photographers and members of the press left at an unknown time before 5:12
pm.

     Malaysia
         -The President’s view
              -Kuela Lumper
              -Railroad station

     Importance of Malaysia
         -Oil
         -US policy

     Malaysia's foreign policy
         -Vietnam War
                -Neutrality
                -Malaysia’s hope for peace
         -Cambodia
         -People's Republic of China [PRC]
         -Prospect for peace

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 4:33 pm.

     Refreshments

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 5:12 pm.

     Nixon Doctrine
         -US policy
              -Vietnam War
                    -Cambodia
                    -South Vietnam
                         -Negotiations
                         -US withdrawal

     Announcement of Henry A. Kissinger's trip to PRC
         -Malaysia’s statement of support
                                             14

                         NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 585-8 (cont.)


         -People of Southeast Asia
         -Malaysia view
              -PRC
                    -Vietnam

    American policy in Southeast Asia
        -PRC
              -Korea
              -Vietnam


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[National Security]
[Duration: 2m 59s ]


    PRC, MALAYSIA


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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    Association of Southeast Asian Nations
         -Vietnam
         -Cambodia
               -Need for support
                    -Malaysia

    The President's interest in Malaysia
         -Unknown person
              -Family
         -Former Secretary of Defense of Malaysia

    US activities in Southeast Asia
         -Vietnam
         -Cambodia
               -Survival
                                        15

                    NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. 10/06)
                                                               Conv. No. 585-8 (cont.)


          -Assistance
          -Malaysia concerns

Vietnam
     -Unintelligible name
          -Health
                -Dwight D. Eisenhower

Burma's economic situation
    -Army
    -Trade
          -Compared with Malaysia and Singapore

Vietnam
     -Thieu
          -Razak’s view

American policy toward Southeast Asia
    -Burma
    -Need for democracy
          -Indonesia
          -Sukerno
                -The President’s view
          -T.J.N. Suharto
    -Maintenance of American presence
    -US relations with PRC
          -Differences
          -Kissinger’s trip
          -Opening of dialogue
          -Vietnam
          -Taiwan
          -US position in United Nations [UN]
          -Importance of visit
                -Reopening of communications
          -Compared with US-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] relations
                -The President's 1959 trip to Moscow
                -Nikita S. Khrushchev's trip to the US
                -Cuba
                -Middle East
                -Europe
                -Arms control
                                         16

                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 585-8 (cont.)


                -Trade
                      -Berlin Agreement
                      -Arms control
           -The President's explanation of US policy
                -USSR
                -Korean war
                -Vietnam War
                -PRC as nuclear power
                -USSR
           -Communists
                -The President’s view
                      -Effect on the President’s policy
                      -US press comments
                -Andrei A. Gromyko’s previous meeting with the President
                -The President’s view

Razak's advice to his people
    -Importance of dialogue

Overview of Asia
     -Japan, PRC, Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Vietnam,
          Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Burma
     -India and Pakistan
     -Southeast Asia
           -Population
           -PRC
           -Population
     -Compared to Western Europe

US policy in Southeast Asia
    -President’s assurances
    -Economic programs
    -Vietnam
           -Japan
           -Indochina

The President's concern about Asia
     -The President's residence in California
     -Europe
          -Future importance
          -The Far East
                                                 17

                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 585-8 (cont.)



     Dr. Ismail Bin Dato Abdul Rahman

     Gift presentation
           -Golf ball
                 -Presidential seal
           -Spiro T. Agnew

The President, Razak and Haig left at 5:12 pm.