{"conversationCode":"587-005","tapeNumber":587,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-587-005","startDateTime":"1971-10-08T14:47:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-08T14:55:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Oct-1971","startTime":"10:47 AM","endDate":"8-Oct-1971","endTime":"10:55 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Bull, Stephen B.; Reid, Charlotte T.; Thompson, Edward C. (Mrs.); Reid, Edward T.; Reid, Susan; Lindner, George; Barker, H. A.; Barker, H. A. (Mrs.); Oschsenschlager, Lambert; Oschsenschlager, Lambert (Mrs.); Burch, Dean; Rumsfeld, Donald H.; Malek, Frederic V.; Nebeker, Frank; White House photographer; Nixon, Richard M. (President);","description":"On October 8, 1971, Stephen B. Bull, Charlotte T. Reid, Mrs. Edward C. Thompson, Edward T. Reid, Susan Reid, George Lindner, H. A. Barker, Mrs. H. A. Barker, Lambert Oschsenschlager, Mrs. Lambert Oschsenschlager, Dean Burch, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Frederic V. Malek, Frank Nebeker, White House photographer, and President Richard M. Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:47 am to 10:55 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 587-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 587-5\n\nDate: October 8, 1971\nTime: 10:47 am - 10:55 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nStephen B. Bull met with Charlotte T. Reid, Mrs. Edward C. Thompson, Edward T. Reid, Susan\nReid, George Lindner, Mr. and Mrs. H. A. Barker, Patrick McMahon, Mr. and Mrs. Lambert\nOchsenschlager, Dean Burch, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Frederic V. Malek, and Frank Nebeker; the\nWhite House photographer was present at the beginning of this meeting.\n\n      Positioning\n\nThe President entered at an unknown time after 10:47 am.\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:47 am.\n\n      Charlotte Reid\n           -Swearing-in ceremony\n                 -Oath of Office\n           -Vocation\n\n      Introductions\n\n      Remarks of congratulations\n\n      Presidential gifts\n\n      The President's explanation of rationale for appointment\n\nBull entered at an unknown time after 10:47 am.\n\n      The President's schedule\n\nBull, Reid, et al. left at 10:55 am.","filename":["587-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:57:55","tapeEnd":"01:06:00","participantsList":["Bull, Stephen B.","Reid, Charlotte T.","Thompson, Edward C. (Mrs.)","Reid, Edward T.","Reid, Susan","Lindner, George","Barker, H. A.","Barker, H. A. 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is."},{"start":444.91,"end":445.37,"text":"Right now, it's a park."},{"start":445.39,"end":447.07,"text":"But if you love him now, or if he's old, part of his old, he has to be redistricted."},{"start":447.09,"end":447.77,"text":"My name is Mr. O. 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