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Conversation 588-007

TapeTape 588StartTuesday, October 12, 1971 at 11:55 AMEndTuesday, October 12, 1971 at 11:58 AMTape start time02:47:19Tape end time02:50:35ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ziegler, Ronald L.;  Kissinger, Henry A.;  Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOval Office
AudioNARA Description

On October 12, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Henry A. Kissinger, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:55 am to 11:58 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 588-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 588-7

Date: October 12, 1971
Time: 11:55 am - 11:58 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler and Henry A. Kissinger.

     The President's schedule
          -Leadership meeting
               -Picture taking

     The President's announcement of US-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] Summit
           -Press conference
                 -Andrei A. Gromyko
                 -Nguyen Van Thieu
                      -Inauguration
                            -Presidential message
                            -Africa
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:55 am.

     William P. Rogers
          -Schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:58 am.

Kissinger left at 11:57 am.

     Assignment for Ziegler
          -Press

Ziegler left at 11:58 am.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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You guys are awful.
I'm a court man, please do.
I'm a court man.
Have you made the decision to send both of them together?
You didn't say that.
You said both of them would be next week.
We saw our teeth got loose, right?
Right.
I wasn't in the mood, but I think it was.
I wasn't in the mood.
I was just relaxed.
Well, I just think it's value.
I didn't practice.
This one I did a very different way.
I didn't write answers out in advance.
I just weighed them all.
Yes, I thought...
Really, it was like in September 16th, that if one could have written everything out, one wouldn't have to do it.
I just like the way I just sort of played it so that they want to do this.
And for me to go, and I agree, and all that bullshit.
Perfect.
And also, we can say to the Chinese, did you get it?
Beautiful, beautiful.
I said, we're not going to do that, man.
And also, I was glad that your last question got me out of it.
But I heard that there were very extensive consultations that took place at our allies and anything that involves them.
And beautiful.
It was great.
I don't know.
I couldn't see the press reaction.
Well, those vaccines aren't just practically done.
And would you guess, well, you saw what I said about two.
Two, yeah.
Of course.
I couldn't say that I sent a message because then there's no reason to.
They didn't have to.
No, no, actually, they did.
But I don't know if they'll have the chance.
Keep reminding these pastors because they all want to.
Well, they have to convince.
some goddamn cannibals elected.
Actually, after we talked... Yeah, I said it again.
I said it.
You know, I said it.
I didn't quote it on that.
We could only send people to inaugurations versus an election vote.
We have a third minute.
All right.
There's this point to hit again.
Don't you think it's moving?
Oh, yeah.
And after we... We did send a message, actually, after your comments yesterday about the...
So...
Bill is here.
Yeah, Bill is here.
Uh, ask, uh, why don't you, why don't you, uh, let me get, you go get a green and, and rock, you said you're, uh, I'm sorry, I put you the wrong button.
Uh, would you, uh, would you mind having one of your choices at the end of the press, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
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