{"conversationCode":"588-009","tapeNumber":588,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-588-009","startDateTime":"1971-10-12T16:54:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-12T16:56:00.000Z","startDate":"12-Oct-1971","startTime":"12:54 PM","endDate":"12-Oct-1971","endTime":"12:56 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On October 12, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:54 pm to 12:56 pm. 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Muskie\n\nZiegler left at 12:56 pm.","filename":["588-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:54:21","tapeEnd":"02:57:05","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"588-008","nextCode":"588-010","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":2.84,"text":"Well, I don't think so."},{"start":2.86,"end":16.09,"text":"There was no focus on that whatsoever, and I don't think there will be, because the answer is there."},{"start":16.11,"end":20.5,"text":"It was just raised up."},{"start":20.52,"end":21.42,"text":"It will be even speculated in terms of that."},{"start":21.44,"end":22.9,"text":"But also, the reaction..."},{"start":24.47,"end":29.47,"text":"The press room itself weren't announcing that this was very good."},{"start":29.49,"end":34.44,"text":"The reaction by the press in terms of using the press room in this way was very good."},{"start":34.46,"end":40.79,"text":"And having it recorded as the film is a good way to do it, and they all felt that."},{"start":41.53,"end":45.5,"text":"They compared it with a similar type of give and take that can take place in the office."},{"start":46.02,"end":50.24,"text":"To see what's a good setting for that."},{"start":50.26,"end":50.92,"text":"Well, they had a full press room."},{"start":50.98,"end":51.91,"text":"Oh, there was a full show?"},{"start":51.92,"end":52.1,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":52.12,"end":52.57,"text":"I already heard of it."},{"start":61.2,"end":78.19,"text":"I think there are quite a few questions there."},{"start":78.21,"end":78.39,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":78.41,"end":79.23,"text":"At least five minutes more tonight on TV."},{"start":79.25,"end":80.5,"text":"They ask me more about the Supreme Court in the future, right?"},{"start":80.52,"end":81.78,"text":"No, I'm just moved by the fact that we're thinking of Tuesdays."},{"start":82.53,"end":96.61,"text":"And I'm not going to say both of them together."},{"start":96.63,"end":106.35,"text":"I have covered the third thing earlier."},{"start":107.66,"end":117.66,"text":"The government's squirming all over the place."},{"start":117.68,"end":117.98,"text":"Of course, sir."},{"start":118,"end":119.77,"text":"I don't want to hurt any of them."},{"start":119.78,"end":121.57,"text":"Got any of those, those guys in America today?"},{"start":121.59,"end":122.53,"text":"They're a hundred and eighty degrees over nine."},{"start":122.55,"end":123.45,"text":"Must be from a hundred and thirty miles away."},{"start":123.47,"end":124.25,"text":"A hundred and eighty degrees over nine?"},{"start":124.27,"end":124.88,"text":"Within eight hours."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler discuss the logistics and public reception of recent televised press briefings, specifically noting the positive media reaction to filming in the press room. They also address the strategy for handling anticipated press inquiries regarding upcoming Supreme Court nominations. Nixon emphasizes his desire to avoid public speculation or controversy when discussing potential appointees, such as Senators Robert C. Byrd, George S. McGovern, and Edmund S. 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