Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 590-010
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1971 at 12:32 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); White House operator
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/590-010

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[0:00] We're trying.
[0:03] How many of you have tried the presence of a light to attend?
[0:13] And any of you?
[0:13] Would it be possible if the service could be in a letter rather than two?
[0:15] It is, we're trying to find one.
[0:16] We might have to get it there instead of that.
[0:21] Well, I'll be worried if she doesn't.
[0:46] I mean, I haven't heard from her.
[0:46] She was supposed to come to Denmark and learn all the science of some of these new countries.
[0:48] Did you own that Citizens' Committee or not?
[0:49] I didn't own any of that Citizens' Committee.
[0:50] I had a couple of them.
[0:50] Well, I had Nicole Lewis.
[0:52] which they are, they just expect you to be.
[1:00] They really don't, but I think maybe with this one it's not a bad thing to do anyway.
[1:08] Cutting out the stop in a third city also reduces, by a very substantial amount, some of the, it reduces Secret Service, it reduces WACA, you know, that kind of stuff too.
[1:23] It may be that I don't have many stops within the months that we can, which, can that reduce it more?
[1:29] Yeah, that would reduce it some more.
[1:32] But if the other stop is not an overnight stop, that isn't too much of a problem.
[1:37] That's what it should be, I think, is just fly out in Peking.
[1:48] But you could do that and instead stay in Peking and visit the Forbidden Palace or the Great Wall or something like that.
[1:54] See, the Great Wall is down here an all-day trip.
[1:56] I don't think you want to do that.
[1:58] Because you have to be done to drive.
[2:20] It's a four hour drive.
[2:21] No, I don't do that.
[2:22] I don't want a sightseeing.
[2:22] I don't think I should go there for sightseeing.
[2:23] Let's face it, it's true.
[2:24] So I may not get up to.
[2:24] I'll have every choose of time.
[2:25] If I'm going to be born four days, I'm sure I'm not going to make it a trip anyway.
[2:27] I can't justify it.
[2:29] Well, by not spending the night in another city, you get out of a dead end, though.
[2:35] Provincial leaders banquet time.
[2:49] Alex is working it back to whoever talked to him to begin with, because we had an original contact with him.
[2:58] I think he'd probably just assume that would count at all times.
[3:23] that he won't be able to get around shit.
[3:46] That's another thing.
[3:47] You'll hear it directly from me.
[3:47] Now, I was just so worried.
[3:48] She said, apparently, on the back of the call, we won't put it out.
[3:49] We should never put out a call, you know.
[3:50] But she'll tell everybody.
[3:51] Take it out.
[3:52] That's another advantage of doing that is it has some visibility.
[4:02] You know, and that raises the question, you know, people say, well, why did you, you know, where did he come from or something?
[4:18] Well, the president sent him.
[4:19] They've got some of those guys that they've used for this.
[4:20] There are two or three of them that are very good property estimates.
[4:21] Yeah.
[4:27] It was a quiet day.
[4:42] There was a very driving day in a sense because of the high tension.
[4:43] They were purring to the press.
[4:44] A lot of them got out there and wham it out there at the meeting.
[4:45] They wham it out to some stuff they were doing yesterday.
[4:47] And down to the Congress and back to the...
[5:00] I didn't know where I was going.
[5:29] Wells?
[5:33] or a letter to ambassadors, maybe by, you know, is that important?
[5:52] I remember I mentioned those four points being made, and I wonder if you could get that some way, because I believe in you.
[5:55] I mean, I think it's good, but I just don't think it's as important as it would have been if you'd gone on that tour.
[6:05] All right.
[6:29] And, uh...
[6:56] The thing to do the most is to frighten the damn human.
[7:08] In fact, just to be sure that the Congress is calling on us.
[7:16] There's a lot of congressional guys are doing that.
[7:17] There's a lot of us.
[7:18] The only thing we can do is to keep them in this one more year.
[7:23] There's just a lot of heat we don't need to take if we can avoid it this year.
[7:42] If they throw them out next November, that's fine.
[7:44] From what he said after his first trip, the Chinese understood that.
[7:46] Couldn't care less whether they got in this year or not.
[7:52] That's what we did today.
[8:12] We're prepared to leave.
[8:16] I didn't realize that they don't have any of that call to stay.
[8:17] I'm trying to get them to listen.
[8:18] I don't know how all they really get around.
[8:20] Those get out and
[8:22] I should swear.
[8:29] Good ways.
[8:29] We push some of them on our way carefully, but some of them we just better if we don't.
[8:58] the Bradford Sons of the King's Tribune, please.