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Conversation 593-004

TapeTape 593StartFriday, October 15, 1971 at 8:43 AMEndFriday, October 15, 1971 at 9:09 AMTape start time00:10:35Tape end time00:13:15ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOval Office
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On October 15, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:43 am and 9:09 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 593-004 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 593-4

Date: October 15, 1971
Time: Unknown between 8:43 am and 9:09 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     The President's schedule
          -Henry A. Kissinger
          -Peter G. Peterson

Bull left at an unknown time before 9:09 am.
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Education.
Who would have ever thought of education to women anyway?
I don't know.
It should have been abolished before.
Terrible idea.
Right?
That's out of the question.
Change some of your leaders and keep some of your horses.
Look, Max.
Teach them to eat.
Teach them domestic science.
That ought to be the full event of it.
You're a male dog that's a pig.
Well, I gather that's the case.
But I recognize what the change is.
And as the president said, they have, through their education, looked around to see that they're treated differently.
They don't like it.
And I'm not talking about the broad burners and all the rest of them.
I'm talking about the average housewife.
And on paper, it makes a very good argument that they should have equality in all things.
So, in my opinion, it doesn't prove out that way.
I quite agree with you.
That's the way it looks up.
It looks good up here.
You know the name of Peterson's wife?
Uh, Sally.
Pete Peterson.
You're a pretty surprised fellow.
Pete Peterson's a pretty surprised fellow.
that everything's falling in line on the plate.
That's great.
Did you hear what happened to Don Kendall in Pepsi-Cola?
He, as you know, has been a free trader.
And he came down and boycotted Pepsi-Cola in North and South Carolina.
They lost about a million bucks to the thing.
Why?
Because he came in on the other side.
He came in on the other side for the free trade.
That's what Dick Gallo showed me.
Well, he's out of it now.
Yeah, they're out of it.
They made their peace.
The boycotts have been called off, I guess.
Well, I'll tell you, I agree with the warrant.
John, do you see any other way to handle it?
No.
You can't take anything off of him.
That's not what I'm saying.
Particularly with the idea that that mentioned to you, if I had any thoughts otherwise.
See to this.
That's the point that I've made in my hour and a quarter.
I'm not trying to get back and forth, but you could not possibly give you an ultimatum that was... Perhaps anyway, you can't talk.
You can't talk.
There will be another appointment for a few more years.
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