Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 593-008
Date: Friday, October 15, 1971 at 9:53 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; Ushiba, Nobuhiko
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/593-008

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[57:40] played a Russian visit against the Chinese without very... We've got to tell them that the President has been invited to visit another city in Russia and probably will.
[57:43] And Mrs. Nixon will be going because she went... Oh, they have prepared for the other city.
[57:47] I raised that already.
[57:49] And they will probably... And they'll probably raise...
[57:54] When I was there, he told me that if you see Mao, or when you see Mao, they wanted to be outside of Peking in his country place.
[58:02] We have no way of refusing that.
[58:05] We've got to see him wherever they say it is.
[58:09] And so that they may raise again.
[58:18] Now on the crowd, my strong instinct is
[58:27] that they will turn out one tremendous crowd.
[58:30] Their pride won't permit anything else.
[58:34] It will be, I, it's, when I arrived, No, but when I arrived, Well, when I arrived, the guy said to me, that marshal who greeted me at the airport, he said, I want to apologize, we don't have any crowds for you, but it's a secret visit.
[58:53] So,
[58:54] So to them, that goes with the visit.
[58:57] I have absolutely no worry about that.
[59:00] I think it'll be the biggest crowd I think you've ever had when you arrived there.
[59:04] This is the biggest that I'm still thinking of.
[59:06] It's really an opportunity on some occasion to have some contact with the crowd.
[59:12] Driving through a crowd is not what is important, but we'll find out in those days.
[59:16] Going to the country might be the thing to do.
[59:18] Going to see my friends.
[59:21] But all of this is all negotiable, and the other names have got to come ahead of it.
[59:28] We're not trying to exploit it, but I think you've just got to hold on to the fact that, after all, this visit will be compared with the Russian visit, and they must know this.
[59:39] Well, up to some point, in terms of technical efficiency and so forth, that will impress them.
[59:46] In terms of other things, it may serve their purpose
[59:50] to be cooler so and then there are so many factions there that it's a but I think I think it will be a good crowd now what crowd situations you can get in the street whether you can dive into a crowd there I would doubt I don't think that's conceivable their leaders never do it I think it's probably possible to visit some cooperative farm and
[1:00:18] And that sort of factory will get people that way, but they are very ceremonial.
[1:00:28] It's not a very spontaneous people in that way.
[1:00:30] That's great.
[1:00:39] Now I didn't have that in mind.
[1:00:41] I'm just having...
[1:00:43] There are very subtle ways to get this across.
[1:00:49] I think I understand what you have in mind, but... Oh, Bob has written it down.
[1:01:04] Okay.
[1:01:14] How about doing the concert?
[1:01:15] Nothing at all.
[1:01:16] I think that's all, sir.
[1:01:18] You have to accept it.
[1:01:23] Well, I'd rather stop a bit, Jim.
[1:01:27] Huh?
[1:01:28] Well, that's all right.
[1:01:30] No, you know, they need my call.
[1:01:32] Oh, yeah.
[1:01:34] No, Edie, like I said, we won't do it for you again what we did on tech stuff.
[1:01:37] I said we don't want anything.
[1:01:38] We want to set us an act of friendship.
[1:01:44] You know what, we've got the textiles, the thread of the trefoil right out there.
[1:01:49] Oh, when I said in that press conference the other day, the Russian newsletter on the 15th, we will have to take other action.
[1:01:59] If we had to brutalize them, we'd be dead.
[1:02:02] I've got to go to the President of the Republic and brutalize them, too.
[1:02:09] Well, I'll tell Henry about the announcement of Connolly.
[1:02:12] You've got to set this up a full deal.
[1:02:13] How do you want that handled?
[1:02:14] That should be done by the end of June, sir.
[1:02:17] Now, leave it to us.
[1:02:18] We had to sort of cover for Peterson there.
[1:02:21] We'd already sent the message, sir.
[1:02:24] Oh, yeah, but you have to do that.
[1:02:25] You said you'd take care of Mr. Rose's work, sir.
[1:02:29] Well, now we all have been on the Connolly thing.
[1:02:33] You won't even think that ought to be announced next.
[1:02:35] No, later than June, sir.
[1:02:39] And what about the Spanish control?
[1:02:41] That's all set.
[1:02:42] No problem.
[1:02:43] Yeah.