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Conversation 593-009

TapeTape 593StartFriday, October 15, 1971 at 9:58 AMEndFriday, October 15, 1971 at 10:08 AMTape start time01:02:44Tape end time01:04:54ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Bull, Stephen B.Recording deviceOval Office
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On October 15, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:58 am and 10:08 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 593-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 593-9

Date: October 15, 1971
Time: Unknown between 9:58 am and 10:08 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

     The President's schedule
          -John B. Connally

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:08 am.
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Yeah.
About that he wants to visit the other countries too?
No problem.
And they will make the contact with the other countries?
Yeah.
Except for the Japanese.
The Japanese.
Okay.
I'll talk to you tomorrow morning.
Tomorrow morning.
And if you need to talk, I'll be at the campaign.
Good.
Good luck.
He still doesn't understand it.
He is so overwhelmed with the idea that they are different and so are healthy.
Nobody is talking about plunging into the crowds and all that sort of thing.
He says, I handle these things discreetly.
He knows that.
He doesn't know.
I'm not being tired of plunging into crowds.
He said the same thing in Romania.
I've never seen anybody as intoxicated into the crowds just as he was when you started.
Getting that kind of response, he said, don't do it.
Yeah, didn't he?
Yeah.
And it's just us using it.
Now, Oscar, in Christ's day, they were getting ready to kill some of us when we stopped the motorcade.
But the old boy never left your side, correct?
The next day, remember, he was supposed to go out alone.
There he was at the front doorstep, but when it came time to go, he was about to pass out of it.
All those people in the balcony will hear you say, I'm in Russia.
And I've got it all over the world.
And I was told by every Foreign Service officer who faces the world, these people are different.
They don't believe in it.
They're very proper and so forth.
But God damn it, the Americans do it.
Now, there is a line.
You don't cross Johnson's accrued son of a bitch.
You cross in, kiss babies, and put his arms through the ass of the man.
That's right.
That isn't it.
But I didn't do it that way, sir.
And Henry's got to see that, too.
And he knows God damn well that's true.
Oh.
It may not.
We may not have the option.
If we don't have the option, as you said, there are other ways.
If you're waiting, maybe a small act.
Well, there might be a photographer somewhere, and you're walking into a building, there's a doorman who will leave the door open or something, or a waiter standing there, and you stop and go over and talk to him for a few minutes, or call your interpreter over, and you have a little chat.
But this is all she finds, and so do you all the time.
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