Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 596-005 Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1971 at 12:14 PM Participants: [Unknown person(s)] Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/596-005 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [2:04:26] that should be done first, and then go on after that to the next step. [2:04:33] That's where the science is about to come on, and where it takes a little bit of work on. [2:04:40] I think that the dialogue problem is not really [2:04:48] great as it once was, because there was a time when they didn't talk to each other. [2:04:56] They did a little talking. [2:04:56] But it really gets down to the fundamental points, too. [2:05:03] Withdrawal. [2:05:03] I mean, the Arabs say that Israel must withdraw from all they have to buy territory. [2:05:06] Israel says, never. [2:05:07] We will withdraw from some because we've got to have secure borders. [2:05:15] And so the Arabs said, well, if you don't do that, then we've got to be at war with you if you can get out. [2:05:21] That's what's coming up at the present time. [2:05:26] So somewhere in between, there's an answer there, where Israel can have its secure borders. [2:05:33] But there's a second time where there has to be some withdrawal, too.