{"conversationCode":"596-011","tapeNumber":596,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-596-011","startDateTime":"1971-10-19T16:31:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-19T16:33:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Oct-1971","startTime":"12:31 PM","endDate":"19-Oct-1971","endTime":"12:33 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Tomkins, Ross; Reynders, Charlton (\"Rink\"); White House photographer;","description":"On October 19, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Ross Tomkins, Charlton (Rink) (\"Rink\") Reynders, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:31 pm to 12:33 pm. 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Oh, yes."},{"start":8322.47,"end":8322.97,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":8323.15,"end":8325.87,"text":"I'm involved in that, too."},{"start":8326.25,"end":8328.05,"text":"That's fine."},{"start":8328.15,"end":8329.41,"text":"It's a great work."},{"start":8332.4,"end":8334.44,"text":"Do you live right in Manhattan?"},{"start":8334.7,"end":8336.96,"text":"Yeah, you live right in Manhattan."},{"start":8337.04,"end":8339.42,"text":"He's a research director."},{"start":8339.44,"end":8340.72,"text":"He's a research director."},{"start":8341.18,"end":8341.9,"text":"He's a research director."},{"start":8341.94,"end":8342.94,"text":"He's a research director."},{"start":8342.96,"end":8344.1,"text":"He's a research director."},{"start":8344.14,"end":8346.4,"text":"He's a research director."},{"start":8346.44,"end":8353.78,"text":"He's a research director."},{"start":8353.8,"end":8356.32,"text":"He's a research director."},{"start":8356.74,"end":8358.8,"text":"He's a research 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York."},{"start":8392.3,"end":8392.74,"text":"We appreciate it."},{"start":8392.76,"end":8392.96,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":8404.83,"end":8406.39,"text":"President, I almost hesitated to ask you this."},{"start":8406.43,"end":8411.69,"text":"There are some TV's in the room to tell you I'm going on a next week meeting."},{"start":8411.77,"end":8414.55,"text":"Throwing out two imposters who are coming here in the field for the White House."},{"start":8414.57,"end":8415.15,"text":"See you at the talk show."},{"start":8415.21,"end":8416.31,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":8416.33,"end":8418.19,"text":"I was worried about the reunion."},{"start":8418.21,"end":8422.25,"text":"They said that they met you at the talk show."},{"start":8424.44,"end":8425.34,"text":"Oh, sure."},{"start":8425.7,"end":8426.7,"text":"This is funny."},{"start":8427,"end":8428.86,"text":"I thought you might put her over there for a while."},{"start":8428.88,"end":8429.24,"text":"Yeah, of 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today."},{"start":8486.02,"end":8486.2,"text":"Here, here."},{"start":8486.22,"end":8487.1,"text":"I'll give you a little long plug for tonight."},{"start":8502.55,"end":8507.04,"text":"Well, I've actually had my children watch the program, watch some of it, very small bit."},{"start":8507.24,"end":8508.44,"text":"They hardly thought it was worth it."},{"start":8508.6,"end":8511.86,"text":"You know, you're not the one on the regular program."},{"start":8511.88,"end":8512.2,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":8512.26,"end":8513.1,"text":"Where do you both live, Peter?"},{"start":8513.22,"end":8516.16,"text":"I'm a near neighbor of yours when you live in New York."},{"start":8516.24,"end":8517.07,"text":"It's 62nd Street."},{"start":8517.36,"end":8517.7,"text":"Really?"},{"start":8517.81,"end":8519.07,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":8519.09,"end":8519.15,"text":"62nd?"},{"start":8519.21,"end":8520.25,"text":"Forty-one, 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