Nixon, Woods & Poff on Kennedy Center and John Connally

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All right, as well.

Thank you.

Goodbye.

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Well, what did you hear?

What?

How was it?

Very much so.

Oh, all right.

I was glad to go to her, sis.

Marry him.

What did you know?

It was a terrible thing.

I met the center.

She told me all about it.

That, uh, William O'Connor and what Blair is, uh, you know, running.

We're trying to... Can't we get rid of him?

We can't.

We're not sure.

I was just going to tell you.

I thought you were going to add that to the reason why I was teasing you.

I was going to say, leading Democrats start a plan in the name of the National Senate.

What?

A leading Democrat should hold out for a change of name.

I think they will.

I really think they will.

Because the Kennedy Foundation last Saturday night, I think, and so does everyone in town.

They used to just know it were their home.

Last Saturday night?

They had the Kennedy Foundation around, so it was their name.

I don't know.

They used to do that.

What did they do with that?

They had the Kennedy Foundation meeting and awarding prizes and all that.

They used the Kennedy Center for that.

And so, they treated it so well.

I had someone to check that, see if they paid for all of it or not.

We ought to listen to it, you know.

Of course.

It's a beautiful thing down there on the road.

We have a...

Frankly, it should be some action there.

I didn't want to sit there and wait.

It's really terrible what they're doing.

They're hiring players, people, and everything.

Oh, there's the batter.

Is that one there in Denver?

Christ, it was super horrible.

He's a know-it-all son of a bitch.

But we're working on it.

We're working on it.

He's trying to get the weight.

All the work he's trying to get Blair.

Blair's the key to get him thrown out.

And we get somebody else in.

We get somebody that I told Bob, the man, you know, we should have blended.

Nancy Hanks also played that game, you know, because they could...

He says they do.

He says they are on exactly the same side.

Absolutely.

You know what I mean?

Because I just wondered, because this is, I don't know, let's plan for that.

Okay.

Well, I mean, I guess, because I'm sure that on our side of the thing, I'm sure that some of it is not good.

Well, you know, he may, maybe he sounds, you know, sometimes I think he tries to be, sounds taller than they are.

And also, just because he's playing a kid, he doesn't want to be cool.

You know, he probably doesn't know Mrs. Marriott as well, as far as whether she would quote him.

But we can, we can sure find out.

Somebody else might be doing it.

This is next, please.

Well, she is, but she's not going to do that.

But, uh, so John here is a guy who's going to be working on her vehicle over and having to sit there all night.

Well, maybe he is going to be like other things.

I don't have to go out very often.

I mean, the Knights are so damn hard.

Now we've got these five coming up, but this is just those days.

Well, they're not as hard, really, as they're the ones where you have to go out and get them all, are they?

Yeah.

I know, I know.

That's why it took us so long last night and everything.

You're 48 today, so I wanted to congratulate you.

I would have mentioned it at the meeting this morning.

You're the only member of Congress or the Senate who celebrates birthday today, so... Yeah, yeah.

Well, anyway, I just hope you figure out the political world the rest of my life.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

All right, good.

Give my best to your ma'am.

Bye.

But two or three people told me it was rather long.

One of them told me he couldn't hear.

It was very hard to hear.

I see.

He goes to that reception afterwards.

You know, everything was black but long.

Well, the reception was only 40 people.

Well, they go to him, too.

He may have been 40, I don't know.

No, he wasn't 40.

I had breakfast with Glenn.

He said, you know.

Glenn Hall.

Uh-huh.

He said he got a really great job.

I see him when he comes to town.

That's good.

And he said again how he thought he looked excellent.

He just, you know.

Was he there last night?

He's so sweet.

What a good job you do.

He knows how tough it is.

Yeah.

You know how tough it is.

It's just the fact that you have to work for this company.

He also says that

He's just dogged on, glad and proud of the way Conway has conducted himself.

Well, good for him.

He remembers.

He said there were people on the street, and that's with me for all the people there are, who at first said, well, what the hell is he putting him in for?

What does he know about this man?

And he said...

He wanted me to tell you this.

To a man that he's ever talked to before, they just said, oh, well, you know, they did not.

He said he had shown self-confidence.

He said he's not afraid to praise the president.

He said, this is another guy.

He said, why, he said, and he said, they think it's all part of being the president.

He said, you know, he went around the country.

He never said anything about Eisenhower.

We all said Eisenhower.

And, of course, Len was a good chairman, too, you know.

I know, I know.

And he said, you know, he said, you know, and he said the one that does the most, or the most effective job, and he didn't run any of the other cabs, but the most effective job is done by the officer.

And so he just, you know, he thinks everything, you know, looks good, and he's very patient about it.

Strong, Connelly, is on you and the administration and on the confidence, the self-confidence that he shows.

Yeah, yeah, that's good.

And when he goes into the jungle attack.

That's great.

That's good.

Looks good.

He's thin.

Quite, you know, thin and not quite there.

And I can promise you, two people I was telling you there, and only because of who they are, Tom Dukley wrote a letter to me.

He's just saying that the Los Angeles Bar Association and the Law of the Eternal City would rather have Douglas than either Hoss Pecker or Walter Mellon.

And she's a deeply advanced.

Early on, she was an advocate against Walter Taylor.

I heard about that.

So you think it would be aggressive against Walter Mellon.

that no matter what anyone tells us, she is a Moran woman and would be a disaster for you, doesn't that make sense?

Well, I don't know.

Only those two who never called, you see.

I mean, Tom Dewey never, right?

And he didn't say for himself.

He just said, it's those people.

And he said,

If you wanted to, you know, if you wanted to have Mitchell call, he said Mitchell probably knows all that.

If you wanted to call Angelo Francis Barr.

Because Tom, very apologetic, but he never writes about that.

Good answer.

I'm going to put on a face of Diane Pancus, Dr. Nelson's wife.

I don't know if you remember when I used to go out and hang out with Tony again.

He is so solid, so much behind you, as she is.

So she worked in a campaign that was here from early 1960s down to where it was here.

She works at the Market Service now in Tampa.

I told Bob, her husband, to quit by the first of the year because she wanted to campaign for working with us.

What do you think is I can test her with anything now?

So I'm going to put her on a diet.

And I just can't get anyone that I don't trust with everything.

I've got doctors, cousin, and mom.

Mary sent me over to the correspondence section because she could get more money over there, so.

And the other girl, Donahue's cousin, the woman, is good, and I know that it might also be fuller than you have to get her.

Because I didn't want to interview anyone.

I wouldn't bring somebody in from just anywhere to speak to a woman.

I have this.

I'll call you and I'll call you today.

I do have the woman's name and Pat's letter to the West Virginia Seizure and so I'm writing the letter which you suggested.

Well, I got it from Pat.

It's not a big thing.

And then I'm going to say at the end that you said since you were unable, Pat was with you when the two of you met.

And I said that since you were unable to have a basic lifter, that you're extending your own lens so it's often one of those little bow pins or something like that.

Nixon, Woods & Poff on Kennedy Center and John Connally

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