Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 596-018 Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1971 at 1:26 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Mitchell, John N. Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/596-018 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [3:11:52] housing start year this year will clearly be two million on a on an annual basis and that's a hell of a strong housing right market's floundering again today and i i called up the market let's see at noon it was down eight points i called two of my friends both of them said well they're now wild when there's about tight money which i [3:12:16] Interesting. [3:12:16] I saw that little blurb last night and asked about it in this morning's meeting. [3:12:23] And that's just the kind of little item that sends Wall Street into a tizzy. [3:12:27] But the argument is that it's going to tighten up the money that it has. [3:12:32] Although it's an article that he has tightened it up since August 15th. [3:12:37] But he's now more concerned with inflation than expansion. [3:12:40] And it just turns out... [3:12:41] I wouldn't be concerned about the market. [3:12:47] I just think that's one of those things that, I mean, we've got to remember that the market, more when it goes down, more when we have to go up. [3:12:53] Well, the reflection, it's just one of those things. [3:12:56] It just hasn't done it. [3:12:57] We've had a bit of burns and all these people in here yelling around about where we're going. [3:13:02] I mean, at least where the market helped was the day after COVID-19 went roaring through the dial dust. [3:13:13] That's my point is I don't think there's a hell of a lot of difference between what's going on in 1878 and 1868. [3:13:20] It's still a damn high. [3:13:23] And one day it's going to take off. [3:13:25] But it's only going to take it off, actually. [3:13:27] They're good numbers. [3:13:28] We've got a few good numbers. [3:13:30] Well, we've got a few good numbers, but they're not as good as they want our old people to be. [3:13:35] Those are a pretty low volume. [3:13:36] Yesterday it was like 10 million or something. [3:13:39] This city was a very low volume. [3:13:40] Today it's 6 million shares, which is nothing. [3:13:44] The, uh, I thought there was a person speaking to you on the phone. [3:13:47] I wouldn't want to keep that motion. [3:13:49] Ed Rumsfeld is trying to reach you on the phone. [3:13:52] Would you try to take it, Rumsfeld? [3:13:54] Oh, you let me know about Rumsfeld, so I might take it later. [3:14:02] All right. [3:14:03] Yeah. [3:14:21] Yes. [3:14:21] Drought. [3:14:21] Drought. [3:14:21] No problem. [3:14:22] Absolutely. [3:14:50] For a certain purpose and so there, you know what I mean? [3:14:53] It's for life, you know what I mean? [3:14:55] You can forget your name and have a lot of other names. [3:15:05] Right? [3:15:07] Nice beaches. [3:15:08] Good, how about the other ball? [3:15:16] Too bad. [3:15:29] I don't know why. [3:15:33] Oh, it's so good. [3:15:58] I just must, I just think the fact that he raised such a thing indicates that we ought to, ought to press him. [3:16:08] I think, I just think. [3:16:10] Yeah. [3:16:10] That, uh, we just, he's, two years of handling this work ought, ought to give a lot. [3:16:14] To keep his time and give us some terribly prestigious support and some that. [3:16:23] I frankly think we ought to press him on the job when we do that. [3:16:26] And I'm following up with Sarah. [3:16:29] I'd be glad to. [3:16:30] But I really feel that the point is that I think that right now the coordination, that's the point that we need. [3:16:36] I heard the length of time it works out. [3:16:38] And also, this is something that the history ought to take. [3:16:50] Well, what I had to come here to do on the phone. [3:17:11] All right, fine, I'll pay the code. [3:17:18] Okay. [3:17:18] Yeah. [3:17:18] The Baker thing would be a good one. [3:17:21] Now, if we don't, we could get a holler. [3:17:27] Hello there. [3:17:37] I just think the Mulligan thing is, you know, he's thought of him originally as a top man, so he's mediocre. [3:17:43] He's not mediocre. [3:17:45] So he's the dean of a law school. [3:17:47] And so that's a hell of a thing, John. [3:17:50] Everybody else says a dean's a big thing, right? [3:17:58] But he was a dean before he was a good Catholic law school. [3:18:00] And I said, well, that isn't such a good thing. [3:18:11] We're not doing it for that reason because he's already on the court, on a certain court. [3:18:20] Would it be out of the way at all to not let me in?