Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 597-002 Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1971 at 9:17 AM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Malek, Frederic V.; Mitchell, John N. Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/597-002 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [6:32] Is, for example, James Mann? [6:35] No, James is not. [6:36] Some of them were, but one of them wasn't. [6:42] Check it out. [6:42] We can check it out. [6:44] I said we can check it out. [6:46] We can check it out. [6:46] We can check it out and see if that ain't a lawyer and how many years to practice. [6:58] And you might also get to see if you have to check down all those things. [7:15] I would not have it. [7:17] What I'd like to do is see if they can then check to see if there's any others of that type. [7:25] Yeah, that are outstanding in a country that are on lists that you're looking into. [7:30] I don't need judges. [7:31] Just because we're looking at all those, but you know, the women think about who the hell do you care about. [7:38] I'm just thinking, I've occurred to me that a lot of those women, you know, [7:44] Yeah? [7:45] She's younger. [7:46] What? [7:47] She's younger than that when she's in her late 20s or early 30s. [7:50] Oh, well, I don't mean that. [7:52] She's got 40 years old. [7:54] Hello. [7:54] Yeah. [7:56] Hello, Connie. [7:59] Yeah. [8:07] Yeah. [8:11] Oh, I see. [8:11] Yeah. [8:12] Why don't we leave? [8:15] It's a question of money. [8:36] Well, God, we can arrange [8:46] Well, you know, loans are hard things, but hell, that shouldn't be any problem. [8:52] Anybody that's going to have a job and pay $60,000 for the rest of his life, even these days, John, ain't bad, huh? [9:02] He'll still get his, pick up his senatorial pension. [9:07] It won't be a hell of a lot. [9:09] It'll be $10,000 a year. [9:12] Yeah. [9:17] Yeah. [9:18] Could I ask you one other thing? [9:19] Are we... [9:21] I wonder if we should just do the back thing. [9:25] Did you tell them not to look into bacon or salty bacon or how we leave that? [9:32] Are they not checking her? [9:37] They said they were told they're not qualified. [9:40] Inevitable. [9:43] I'm just trying to think of the answers that we have when people say, well, why don't you check a woman out? [10:08] Yes, sir, all day. [10:17] When I say what we want, I mean, I don't want them just taking a call. [10:22] They're going to hear about ramblings. [10:24] I mean, I don't want to say just no patient, but I don't want to say not all of them. [10:30] That's what they're going to do. [10:32] We're going to have to put it on them. [10:39] Yeah, right. [10:41] Right. [10:48] But the bar is just being brought over, so they're gonna be, they're a stacked jury, they're gonna take, you know, let them take the wrath of the law. [11:01] Is there any way that we have any place that we could push a woman up to the circuit court at the same time we do this? [11:18] I must say, but I suppose we went in the way of the New York, you know, I mean, build a mile and toss a woman in there. [11:32] The idea that we're sort of preparing one for, you see what I'm getting at, John? [11:37] I don't, I think the idea that all this whole movement about women having been raised, we've got to indicate that we sure have that under consideration. [11:46] It's not never. [11:52] How about here in Washington you could donate your country? [11:57] Do we have a hold on this turkey? [12:00] Well, we could put some debate in there, couldn't we? [12:06] One of those bastards is going to retire and die, isn't he? [12:22] I think that they still appeal to me very much. [12:24] I mean, not now, I see the point. [12:27] But how about, I'm just having their eye on her, keeping her, I mean, I don't know, look, keep your nose clean and be conservative as hell, you know, and she can go out where God is. [12:40] Will you do that? [12:41] Now, Mike, what is it? [12:42] Well, we're not talking about that anymore here, but I mean, what course, you know, on the street, did a trial, or... [12:54] Why don't you put her on the Federal District Court? [12:56] Can you do that? [12:59] Here. [12:59] I mean, I can put her up there pretty fast. [13:03] I mean, I don't have any other money, John. [13:06] That's the point. [13:07] You know, there are certain women that are on courts that I don't accept military. [13:21] When will that, when will that come? [13:29] We can shut her up. [13:30] Okay, you're leaving to go to Philadelphia. [13:33] You'll be gone. [13:37] But I'll be here early. [13:39] And first, let's see if you have a license at the moment. [13:42] Do you think Baker is considering it? [13:43] Yeah. [13:43] Yeah. [13:47] Yeah. [13:49] Yeah. [13:51] Now I'm going to move on. [13:54] I'm not going to... [13:55] not under any circumstances going to submit it to the law. [13:58] I mean, I'm just, he's just going to go, okay. [14:02] And it's not going to pop, right? [14:04] And we just can't be bothered. [14:06] Okay, John. [14:07] Yeah. [14:12] Yeah. [14:15] Yeah, well, we can simply say it because of him being a senator and all that kind of thing. [14:19] We didn't think that Powell, the former president of the ABA, you know, he was a fighter, isn't he? [14:30] Cut you out, please. [14:35] Yeah. [14:35] Yeah, we cannot have that. [14:39] Okay. [15:38] Well, that's easy to say, asshole. [15:45] Well, the point is, I suppose that one of our policemen or something was a guy. [15:54] No, we've had some incidents where the policemen have been handled things badly. [16:04] This one, the guy... [16:06] Daisy's ink wasn't on the typewriter unless it was written on the back side of it. [16:11] The guy didn't see it. [16:12] He said, just a second, Mr. Thompson, I'll check this for you. [16:17] And that's all Daisy needed. [16:19] He said, what do you do? [16:22] Unless he took advantage of it, he's made a monumental, monumental job.