Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 599-005
Date: Friday, October 22, 1971 at 9:06 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/599-005

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[0:00] Oh, my God.
[0:30] How are you doing?
[1:03] I tell you, I had asked B.B.
[1:08] and Bob to come up tomorrow, but I don't think they'd better do it.
[1:13] You know, I'm really not feeling like I want to do anything.
[1:16] You know what I mean?
[1:17] And so on and so forth.
[1:18] You can tell I have confidence that I've got a virus.
[1:24] It also occurs to me that it's not the nature of it.
[1:25] You see, if I do a radio address and talk about veterans, it's very funny because I've got to work on that one.
[1:29] I just like for them to come when I can't spend the day.
[1:38] When you can spend a little bit of time with them would be better.
[1:44] Yeah, but also I just, I feel that I probably ought to not have to see so much.
[1:47] I think you ought to be able to go to sleep.
[1:50] I may go to, well I have got plenty of sleep, but I think, you know, if I go to Camp David I'll just sit around and try to.
[1:54] It should be beautiful.
[1:55] It should be beautiful, I'm just saying.
[1:56] And then it occurs to me that,
[2:05] I don't know whether we're going to do it here or do it in the Cuba scan.
[2:21] I'm just going to give you a scan after the T.O.
[2:27] meeting.
[2:27] Jump T.O.
[2:34] Let's see if I can go there to 30.
[2:52] 30, 31.
[2:53] See that?
[2:58] But you don't feel quite safe.
[3:00] Yeah, well.
[3:01] He did a required thing, but it requires it from me.
[3:10] I can't do it.
[10:49] I have to talk to you sometime about Trisha and Julie and, well, not Julie, Trisha mostly, and expensive, but when you have them in.
[11:01] Well, they go to Camp David and have them by.
[11:05] He brings his cleaning there, cleaning that has been backed up for a week.
[11:10] And then there's no effort to pay this.
[11:15] They've got to, he sends out the regulations.
[11:17] A razor and all that stuff.
[11:24] There's no excuse for that when I'm down here.
[11:29] Well, those are the little things that I would just not bother with now.
[11:35] I know.
[11:36] I want to get into it now, and I'll get into it at a time when I think about it more.
[11:38] In the meantime, you want me to go ahead and say it?
[11:40] Oh, I don't know how to say it.
[11:40] Don't get her into anything that she doesn't do.
[11:43] You know, the thing is, I can't carry more arrogance than I do.
[11:50] I know.
[11:51] What I really want to know is, do you want me to have that bill in direct?
[11:55] No.
[11:55] Well, it costs you $200 every weekend for them to come down here, aside from the incident.
[12:03] And I really think they ought to know.
[12:07] But don't worry about it.
[12:08] You're ready to start costing $50 each way for Ed and Patricia.
[12:13] That's right.
[12:14] And they come down here every weekend.
[12:15] We charge a commercial rate, apparently.
[12:18] at first class, but they have a whole plane to themselves, you know, and I guess you...
[12:28] I said, $200 a week, and then when he sends out all of his dry things that they have to drive down to the next little town, bring all that back...
[12:39] There are times, Stanley, when they come down at my request and you don't have
[12:43] Well, like when Julie came out of Florida, or when Julie came out of Florida on the trip, I took her.
[12:55] Julie was out to work.
[12:56] She's working on a highway trip.
[13:01] It was a trip, so...
[16:43] She's confident, but she's a tramp.
[16:47] She's not really confident with other people.
[16:48] She erodes some of the people the wrong way and gives the wrong impression of what she thinks it's like by being like that.
[16:58] When I say she's confident, she's got it right inside of her.
[17:00] Oh, she's got it right inside of her.
[17:01] She's got it right inside of her.
[17:02] Yes, but let me tell you that Lucy runs a nice dinner and Connie couldn't, wouldn't know at all about that.
[17:11] Lucy couldn't know, but what I've had is I'm speaking for brains and talking to people.
[17:16] I mean, Connie's just smart, but nevertheless.
[17:18] She is smart.
[17:19] Her only problem is that she's trying to stop Connie because she's looking for the future rather than the past.
[17:22] Sure, she's talking to me.
[17:23] That's the difference.
[17:27] Because Lucy is a sweet, nice girl.
[17:29] Lucy is dedicated.
[17:30] She'd do anything for you.
[17:32] And I like her, but I would say she couldn't run the whole show.
[17:36] Oh, not at all.
[17:38] Not at all.
[17:39] She probably didn't.
[17:39] She couldn't at all.
[17:43] She doesn't have to be someone who's a little bit tough.
[17:46] Liz Cochran is tough.
[17:52] The other thing is that
[18:19] It is, basically, it is not a woman's world, basically, as far as going in.
[18:29] You can't.
[18:30] They can't go in or they can't go around.
[18:31] The other thing is, Pat doesn't have a good-looking group, either.
[18:33] She has some good-looking, sharp girls.
[18:37] She's a good-looking, pretty girl.
[18:40] But she's got some pretty awful homies.
[18:43] I don't know what that means, but some of them are pretty bad.
[18:45] But it took today, but I'll be graduating.
[18:49] Yeah, you say that I would like to put it off until next week.
[18:56] Oh, another thing, Henry's getting back Monday, too, and I'll let her shoot that.
[19:02] Okay.
[19:02] And you're sure you want to do that next week when you can't hold up?
[19:05] No, I just can't go up the holes.
[19:16] I don't want to go up the holes.
[19:18] I mean, that's okay to go out and run on the holidays, but no.
[19:23] No, we're not going up the holes for the reason that Pat can't go up.
[19:25] Pat can't.
[19:25] That's really the main reason.
[19:26] Pat says she's going to be in the yard for two days, and then won't want to be there Saturday.
[19:28] So I'm not going to take her to hell.
[19:29] But she did say she would go, and the whole thing was because of Tito.
[19:31] And that's not planned at all.
[19:32] I don't know.
[19:33] All right, well, I'll just leave it that way.
[19:35] But I'll feed him, okay?
[19:40] He'll evolve then.
[19:42] Well, just say that you can't do it this week.
[19:45] Yeah.
[19:45] We'll be in touch to see if we can make it up.
[19:48] I think you ought to go up there.
[19:49] There should be a view that we can ask.
[19:50] We'll see.