{"conversationCode":"601-009","tapeNumber":601,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-601-009","startDateTime":"1971-10-23T15:09:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-23T15:14:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Oct-1971","startTime":"11:09 AM","endDate":"23-Oct-1971","endTime":"11:14 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On October 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:09 am and 11:14 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 601-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 601-9\n\nDate: October 23, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 11:09 am and 11:14 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     Seating arrangement\n          -Interpreter\n\n     Telephone calls\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:14 am.","filename":["601-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:16:04","tapeEnd":"02:17:13","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"601-008","nextCode":"601-010","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":18.38,"text":"If you sit here, there's a bed."},{"start":18.4,"end":18.9,"text":"I'm just trying to think."},{"start":18.92,"end":19.42,"text":"I'm just trying to think."},{"start":19.44,"end":20.72,"text":"Do you have any sense of the person you'd like to be related to?"},{"start":20.74,"end":21.36,"text":"Well, it depends on your cause."},{"start":21.38,"end":21.58,"text":"Of course."},{"start":21.6,"end":22.2,"text":"I think we've got to find out."},{"start":22.22,"end":22.64,"text":"We've got to be true."},{"start":22.66,"end":22.88,"text":"Well, look."},{"start":24.21,"end":35.77,"text":"So what do you see?"},{"start":35.79,"end":36.51,"text":"Approximately half off, I would say."},{"start":36.53,"end":38.03,"text":"It'll take, I think it'll take that long to get the calls through, I think."},{"start":38.05,"end":39.18,"text":"It'll take us, you know, about 20 minutes to 19 minutes."},{"start":39.2,"end":39.32,"text":"Right."},{"start":39.34,"end":39.98,"text":"Yes, a year, probably, isn't it?"},{"start":40,"end":40.1,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":40.12,"end":40.5,"text":"Well, that depends."},{"start":40.52,"end":41.62,"text":"If they get them through, there's no problem with that."},{"start":41.64,"end":42.44,"text":"It's just going to be true, I would say."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull meet to coordinate logistics for a series of upcoming telephone calls. The discussion focuses on the estimated time required to complete these communications, with the participants evaluating scheduling projections. They conclude that the process will likely take approximately twenty minutes per call.","topics":["Telephone calls","Scheduling","Logistics","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T00:29:57.677Z"},"topicSlugs":["telephone-calls","scheduling","logistics","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":43,"audioFiles":[{"file":"601-009.mp3","bytes":1713420,"durationSec":42.7,"bitrate":320984,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.635Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/601-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/601-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/601/conversation-601-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}