{"conversationCode":"601-028","tapeNumber":601,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-601-028","startDateTime":"1971-10-25T16:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-25T16:17:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Oct-1971","startTime":"12:15 PM","endDate":"25-Oct-1971","endTime":"12:17 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On October 25, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:15 pm to 12:17 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 601-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 601-28\n\nDate: October 25, 1971\nTime: 12:15 pm - 12:17 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n\n[See Conversation No. 12-109; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation]\n\nAlexander P. Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 12:15 pm.\n\n     [Unintelligible]\n\nButterfield left at an unknown time before 12:17 pm.\n\n[End of telephone conversation]","filename":["601-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:31:06","tapeEnd":"03:32:53","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haig, Alexander M., Jr.","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"601-027","nextCode":"601-029","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":11.57,"text":"Hello."},{"start":11.59,"end":12.43,"text":"Yeah, I, uh, I noted that I just got back."},{"start":12.45,"end":13.07,"text":"The driver said to call for me."},{"start":13.09,"end":13.65,"text":"Do you know what it's about?"},{"start":13.68,"end":13.89,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":13.92,"end":23.21,"text":"The guy just wanted to run into me."},{"start":23.23,"end":24.01,"text":"He wanted to get back at me, like that."},{"start":24.03,"end":24.98,"text":"Well, he doesn't want me to call that, does he?"},{"start":29.26,"end":54.14,"text":"They can, and they can't, uh, this ridiculous plan that we're not behind them."},{"start":54.16,"end":55.64,"text":"It's just, certainly, they may claim that, but I don't see why they can't."},{"start":55.66,"end":56.22,"text":"We ought to get them anyway."},{"start":56.24,"end":56.82,"text":"Yeah, but she wasn't me, sir."},{"start":56.84,"end":57.2,"text":"No, I just wasn't."},{"start":57.23,"end":57.65,"text":"Yeah, yeah, go ahead."},{"start":64.53,"end":69.97,"text":"Right, okay, fine."},{"start":69.99,"end":70.23,"text":"Right, fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon, Alexander Haig, and Alexander Butterfield met briefly to discuss personnel logistics and the administration's strategic response to an unidentified adversary. The participants addressed the handling of a specific individual who sought to confront the President and evaluated the potential fallout from a public relations strategy. Nixon emphasized the need for a decisive approach despite claims that the White House was not involved in the underlying dispute.","topics":["Personnel Management","Public Relations","Political Strategy","White House Administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T00:31:43.581Z"},"topicSlugs":["personnel-management","public-relations","political-strategy","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":75,"audioFiles":[{"file":"601-028.mp3","bytes":2995509,"durationSec":74.75,"bitrate":320605,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.636Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/601-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/601-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/601/conversation-601-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}