{"conversationCode":"605-008","tapeNumber":605,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-605-008","startDateTime":"1971-10-28T14:48:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-28T14:50:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Oct-1971","startTime":"10:48 AM","endDate":"28-Oct-1971","endTime":"10:50 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"On October 28, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:48 am to 10:50 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 605-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 605-8\n\nDate: October 28, 1971\nTime: 10:48 am - 10:50 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     Schedule\n          -Secretary of State\n          -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n\fMrs. Nixon entered at 10:48 am.\n\n     Josip Broz Tito's location\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:50 am.\nThe President and Mrs. Nixon left at 10:50 am.","filename":["605-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:07:36","tapeEnd":"01:08:55","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"605-007","nextCode":"605-009","transcript":[{"start":0.07,"end":14.61,"text":"All right."},{"start":14.62,"end":24.74,"text":"All right."},{"start":24.88,"end":27.38,"text":"All right."},{"start":27.4,"end":28.92,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull and First Lady Pat Nixon to coordinate personal scheduling, specifically regarding the First Lady's agenda and the status of Yugoslavian leader Josip Broz Tito. Following brief administrative updates from Bull, the President and Mrs. Nixon departed the Oval Office together. The exchange served primarily as a logistical check-in to align the President's meeting schedule with the First Lady's itinerary.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Pat Nixon","Stephen B. Bull","Josip Broz Tito","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T00:36:00.506Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","pat-nixon","stephen-b-bull","josip-broz-tito","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":47,"audioFiles":[{"file":"605-008.mp3","bytes":1869109,"durationSec":46.58,"bitrate":320998,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.636Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/605-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/605-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/605/conversation-605-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}