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Start Date: 28-Oct-1971 11:23 AM

End Date: 28-Oct-1971 12:45 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Tito, Josip BrozTambaca, LijanaAkalovsky, AlexanderZiegler, Ronald L.Ziegler, Ronald L.Zarkovic, VidojeKissinger, Henry A.Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:08:55

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:30:54

605a.mp3

605b.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 28, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Josip Broz Tito, Lijana Tambaca, Alexander Akalovsky, Ronald L. Ziegler, Ronald L. Ziegler, Vidoje Zarkovic, Henry A. Kissinger, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:23 am to 12:45 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 605-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 605-9

Date: October 28, 1971
Time: 11:23 am - 12:45 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Josip Broz Tito, Lijana Tambaca and Alexander Akalovsky.

     Tito’s schedule
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                         Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 605-8 (cont.)


             -Camp David
                 -Franklin D. Roosevelt
                 -Winston S. Churchill
                 -Nikita S. Khrushchev
                 -Willy Brandt
                 -Georges J.R. Pompidou

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 11:24 am.

     Press

Members of the press entered at 11:26 am.

     Photograph

     Cigars

     Press

     Refreshments

Ziegler and press left at 11:32 am.

     Tito’s schedule
           -State Department

Vidoje Zarkovic and Henry A. Kissinger entered at 11:32 am.

     Schedule
          -October 28, 1971
               -Blair House
               -Meeting with the President
               -State Department
          -October 29, 1971
          -Forthcoming Head of State dinner

     International affairs
           -People’s Republic of China [PRC]
           -Tito’s foreign trip
                 -Egypt
                 -Iran
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                   Tape Subject Log
                                     (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 605-9 (cont.)


           -Pakistan
     -India-Pakistan
           -The President’s view
                 -Middle East
           -Tito’s view

Logistics for the President's conversation with Tito
     -Alexander Akalovsky [State Department interpreter]
           -Tito

International affairs
      -India-Pakistan
            -India
            -Tito’s previous trip
                  -Indira Gandhi
                  -Agha Muhommad Yahya Khan
            -Pakistan
            -Tito’s view
                  -Pakistan
                  -East Pakistan
                  -Sheik Mujibar Rahman
                  -Refugees
                  -India
                  -Refugees
                  -Tito’s previous conversation with Khan
                        -Economic development
                        -Comparison to Yugoslavia
                  -Tito’s previous conversation with Mrs. Gandhi
                        -War
                        -India
                              -US government
                              -United Nations [UN]
                  -Tito’s effort
            -The President's view
                  -Tito’s efforts
                  -Causation for dispute
                        -India and Pakistan
                        -Refugees
                  -Possibility of war
                        -India
                        -Pakistan
                                  13

                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                           Tape Subject Log
                             (rev. 10/06)
                                                              Conv. No. 605-9 (cont.)


                -PRC
                -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
          -US
                -Refugees
                      -US aid
                      -India
                            -UN involvement
                      -US policy
                -US policy
                      -USSR
          -Kissinger
                -PRC
                      -Pakistan
          -US policy
                -Efforts to prevent war
          -USSR role
          -US aid
    -India
          -USSR
                -Leonid I. Brezhnev
                      -Friendship treaty
-Yugoslavia
    -USSR
          -Independence
                -Tito’s view
-USSR
    -US
          -Policy
                -Détente
                      -Tito’s view
          -The President's forthcoming trip to the PRC
                -Tito’s view
                -The President’s view
    -Kissinger
    -Andrei A. Gromyko
          -The President's talks
    -Forthcoming US-USSR summit
          -US objectives
                -PRC
                -Smaller countries
                      -Independence
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 605-9 (cont.)


                                -Arms control
              -Tito's position on independence for smaller nations
              -US
              -Brezhnev’s views
                    -India-Pakistan
                          -The President’s previous discussions with Brezhnev
          Middle East
              -US efforts
              -Suez Canal
              -The President’s view
                    -Peace negotiations
                    -US efforts
                          -Anwar el-Sadat
                          -Israel

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:32 am.

     The President's schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:45 pm.

     International affairs
           -Middle East
                 -Israel
                       -US
                       -USSR
           -Yugoslavia
           -Middle east
                 -Sadat
                       -Tito’s view
                             -Gamal Abdel Nasser
           -India-Pakistan
                 -Tito’s view

Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:32 am.

     Tito's schedule
           -Blair House

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:45 pm.
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                         Tape Subject Log
                                           (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 605-9 (cont.)


     International affairs
           -India-Pakistan
                 -Tito’s view

     Bilateral US-Yugoslav talks
           -William P. Rogers
           -Peter G. Peterson
           -The President’s previous discussions with Tito
           -Military cooperation
                 -Defense Department
           -Schedule
                 -Vietnam
                 -Strategic Arms and Limitation Talks [SALT]
                 -European security
                 -Tito's visit to Blair House
                       -Harry S. Truman

The President et al. left at 12:45 pm.