{"conversationCode":"607-015","tapeNumber":607,"conversationNumber":15,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-607-015","startDateTime":"1971-10-29T16:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-29T16:27:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Oct-1971","startTime":"12:25 PM","endDate":"29-Oct-1971","endTime":"12:27 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On October 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:25 pm to 12:27 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 607-015 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 607-015\n\nDate: October 29, 1971\nTime: 12:25 pm - 12:27 pm\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Forthcoming meeting with Marjorie (“Miss Wool”) Sharp\n               -Sherman P. Lloyd\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:27 pm.","filename":["607-015.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:51:04","tapeEnd":"03:52:17","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"607-014","nextCode":"607-016","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":12.31,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":12.33,"end":12.77,"text":"This wall is dead now."},{"start":12.79,"end":13.29,"text":"All right, keep it down."},{"start":13.31,"end":20.94,"text":"Senator Kass, we don't like to bring wires into this wall, sir."},{"start":20.96,"end":21.43,"text":"The senator's not here."},{"start":21.45,"end":21.68,"text":"Just do it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to review his upcoming schedule, specifically regarding a planned meeting with Marjorie \"Miss Wool\" Sharp and Representative Sherman P. Lloyd. During the brief interaction, the President also issued direct instructions to Bull to install wiring within the Oval Office walls despite reservations. This exchange highlights the President's personal oversight of office logistics and surveillance-related technical modifications.","topics":["Presidential schedule","White House operations","Oval Office security","Marjorie Sharp","Sherman P. Lloyd"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T00:38:19.415Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","white-house-operations","oval-office-security","marjorie-sharp","sherman-p-lloyd"],"audioDurationSec":43,"audioFiles":[{"file":"607-015.mp3","bytes":1730734,"durationSec":43.15,"bitrate":320859,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.994Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:06.708Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/607-015.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/607-015","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/607/conversation-607-015","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}