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Start Date: 30-Oct-1971 10:05 AM

End Date: 30-Oct-1971 11:12 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Tito, Josip BrozTambaca, LijanaAkalovsky, AlexanderBull, Stephen B.Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Mosbacher, Emil, Jr. (Bus)

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 01:13:23

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:19:51

609a.mp3

609b.mp3

609c.mp3

609d.mp3

NARA Description:

On October 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Josip Broz Tito, Lijana Tambaca, Alexander Akalovsky, Stephen B. Bull, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, and Emil ("Bus") Mosbacher, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:05 am to 11:12 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 609-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 609-7

Date: October 30, 1971
Time: 10:05 am - 11:12 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Josip Broz Tito, Lijana Tambaca and Alexander Akalovsky; members of
the press were present at the beginning of this meeting.

     Greetings

     Photographs

     Presentation of gifts by the President

Members of the press left at an unknown time before 10:52 am.

     National Press Club
          -Tito’s appearance

     Joint Communiqué
           -Henry A. Kissinger

     Talks on bi-lateral assistance
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. 10/06)



     -Import surcharge
          -Forthcoming United Nations Conference on Trade and Development
                [UNCTAD]
                -Lima
          -Great Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Japan
          -John B. Connally's forthcoming recommendation

Blair House
      -Tito’s discussions with Maurice H. Stans and US businessman

US-Yugoslav economic relationships
    -The President’s view
          -Overseas Private Investment Corporation [OPIC]
    -The President's conversation with Nicolae Ceausescu
          -American investment in Romania
Ceausescu
    -The President’s view
    -US-Romanian relations
    -Tito’s view

US foreign policy
     -Soviet Union, Vietnam
     -Discussions
          -Confidentiality
     -The President’s view
          -Yugoslavia independence
          -Importance of independent countries

Soviet Union foreign policy
     -Ceausescu
     -Relations with neighboring countries
           -Leonid I. Brezhnev, Aleksei N. Kosygin
     -Tito
           -Relations with the Soviet Union
     -Small nations' relationships with US

US foreign policy
     -President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union
           -Small nations
           -Eastern bloc
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. 10/06)
                                                                 Conv. No. 609- 7(cont.)


Soviet Union
     -The President’s view
     -Difference with the People's Republic of China [PRC]
     -The President's conversation with Ceausescu
           -Yugoslavia
           -Romanian economy
     -Arms negotiations with US
           -US defense policy
           -Soviet developments
                -Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles [ICBM]
                      -SS-9’s
                -Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles [SLBM]
           -Possible US developments
                -Arms spending

US foreign policy
     -The President's desire for peace
          -Vietnam
          -Nixon Doctrine
          -Forthcoming trip to China
          -Arms negotiation efforts
     -US interests in Pacific
     -Arms reduction
     -The President’s background
          -Compared to Tito
                -Participation in World War II
     -Small nations' interests
          -The President’s view
     -US military strength
          -Views of US Senators
          -Possible world criticism

Vietnam
     -The President's reductions of US forces
          -US casualties
          -Troop levels
     -Nixon Doctrine
     -The President's message to North Vietnamese in 1969
          -The President's meeting with Ceausescu, August 1969
     -1970 attacks on Cambodia
     -The president's October 1970 peace offer
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                        Conv. No. 609- 7(cont.)


                 -The president's conversation with Andrei A. Gromyko
           -1971 South Vietnamese attacks on Laos
                 -Effect
           -US offers to North Vietnam
                 -Economic assistance
                 -Prisoners of war [POWs]
                 -Deadline
           -Views of the President's opponents
                 -Nguyen Van Thieu
                 -The President’s view
                 -Tito’s view
                       -Future government of South Vietnam
           -Forthcoming US offers to North Vietnam
                 -Elections
                 -POWs
           -Possible US military action
           -US options
           -Tito’s views
                 -Possible discussions with Soviet Union and PRC
                 -(Madame) Nguyen Thi Binh
           -US policy
                 -The President’s view
                 -Peace
                 -POWs
                       -Possible US military action

Stephen B. Bull entered at 10:52 am.

     The President's schedule
          -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon

Bull left at 10:52 am.

     Vietnam
          -Tito’s view
                -President’s forthcoming trip to the Soviet Union and PRC
          -Galileo quote

     US foreign relations with Yugoslavia
          -Tito’s view
          -The President’s view
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                          Tape Subject Log
                                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 609- 7(cont.)



     Vietnam
          -Tito’s schedule
          -US peace offer to North Vietnam

     Tito's visit to US
           -Success
           -Los Angeles

     The President's schedule
          -World Affairs Council

     Mrs. Broz
          -Photographs session

     Oval Office furnishings

Mrs. Nixon, Mrs. Broz, And Mr. and Mrs. Emil Mosbacher entered at 11:09 am.

     Cigars
          -Cuba
          -Canary Islands

     Yugoslavia
         -Bosnia

The President, et al. left at 11:12 am.