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Conversation 613-002

TapeTape 613StartTuesday, November 2, 1971 at 3:07 PMEndTuesday, November 2, 1971 at 3:11 PMTape start time00:02:05Tape end time00:09:04ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Shultz, George P.Recording deviceOval Office
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On November 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and George P. Shultz met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:07 pm to 3:11 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 613-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 613-002

Date: November 2, 1971
Time: 3:07 pm - 3:11 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with George P. Shultz.

[See Conversation No. 13-77]
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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One thing that's very important is to keep a copy of the farm and what's happening here.
It's very important that whenever we do something here that he be aboard.
You see, how we do that is not through one of his people here because he might get an accurate inform of that.
But I would suggest that if, for example, something begins to develop on the pay-for thing, that you, that you, the message you will be sending him, see, that very message,
and indicate the options that are, you know, that we've already outlined as to where we are.
Because I, he will actually have the support of whatever we do while he's gone.
And it would have to cost him to do it constantly, and that period would make some sort of an arrangement to have him supported, too.
But it's much better if he'd be informed, and then he just would say, you can come back and run into some sort of a, you know, sort of, well, why the hell didn't you do better?
You know what I mean?
The important thing here is not just, not to leave anybody, a particular colony in a position where you can say, well, you could say, you know, if he wanted to leave, you know, he could, of course, with his own people over there, well, why didn't we stay with me?
Why didn't we cave in?
You see what I mean?
All right.
So people will remember that.
Is that right for that?
Yeah.
There was some possibility of some leaving the ground.
Yeah.
Yeah.
OK. Start position.
Let's go.
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