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But that little law firm statement I made to Mrs. Gottlieb was a goddamn masterpiece.

I don't know if you probably heard it, but it was damn good.

And do you think maybe we could get something set up on one of these or, well, maybe not.

I don't think we would.

I don't understand why they didn't submit the order to us.

So the fact that we didn't have a treaty, but we were bound by other things, which I'd like to know the Russians, the Indians, and so forth.

Do any of our people understand what goes into those, the work and so forth?

Does anybody understand?

I mean, sometimes they're, that was a goddamn good thing.

And our guys should get really enthusiastic and try to sell one of those now, man.

Do they try?

They do, but nobody gives a shit.

No, they, I mean, our people do, but that's just not it.

We got, on the, on the, I'll share it with you guys.

We got it done.

Press right on.

On the Australian, the man's remarks, you know, his praise of the President, his thing on the Gallipoli in Australia, what I am referring to is, yeah, that's fine.

What I am referring to, though, is a general thing of the President's ability to go out, time after time, of those, you know, to do something that is, that has, you know, that is done simply out of the way for you, you know what I mean?

And we just take this credit for granted, Father.

I mean, just saying.

It's not that good.

It's just somebody ought to be able to get it around.

Maybe it's more of a business.

How often do you spend them?

Yeah.

Hello.

I just wanted you to know that because you're one of the younger members of our Congress, of our Republican Congress, that I was very surprised to know that you ever got any older, but they told me that's because you had a birthday.

I didn't want to let you get any older before I knew it.

But the main thing is to keep your spirits up.

I can remember when I was in my 30s, I had a lot of jazz.

That's right.

Well, keep up the spirit and fight for the thing.

And we do appreciate your hard work and your good – particularly your appeal to young people.

So – and I just want you to know that I – that – just don't hurt yourself.

Okay?

Do we have, for example, other than Zegar doesn't have anybody I know, do we have, does Moore or anybody ever go out and cover this goddamn stuff anymore?

I mean, I thought what I'm referring to is that I know that it seems like a hopeless task, but do we have anybody that goes and kind of can get the feel of that?

Well, not this guy, he's the best guy to get digging today, for example.

Was Moore there?

I'm not sure.

Understanding that Scali is not the best one, because Scali is not interested in anything except substance.

Or is interested in color.

No, Scali is still, is, yeah, okay, yeah, he is.

And this, it was not substance, but it was content.

It wasn't just color in a simple sense, just because it was very sophisticated.

Arthur Burns has a poem to you.

How he took the message, George, tell us, recommend that you talk to him.

I don't know why.

What the hell was that?

All right, I'll meet you around 5 o'clock, all right?

OK. Hello?

Yeah.

All right.

I'll be in just a second.

Oh, you're OK. Yeah, it's fine.

All right.

Good job.

All right, good job.

That's my client.

That's easy, wasn't he?

All right.

I wrote him a tough letter.

Did you read that letter?

That's probably what it's called.

Has it gone?

No, I didn't read it.

Well, I mean, I know you have some other problems with this.

No, but these three letters, we really have never got them.

We really have never gotten any credit.

I understand why, but I think it's a damn important thing to average people to be able to, or is it?

Yes, it is.

I got it wrong.

It is.

He's right.

He's a hard-nosed man.

He doesn't see this.

But, again, somebody else should more, I know what's in it, more of a good help.

That's it.

And where it's worth it is to try.

Difficult though it is, but we'll get there.

We'll build up some mythology.

It's what it is.

A lot of the elements that we use to live in the book, there's the mythology, the knowledge, the consciousness.

I mean, there's a lot of country characteristics that you want to get across that are marginalized and something like that.

If, for instance, I was just doing toast and Rivals fans without notes, Goddamn, there's nobody else in the world that can do it.

There really isn't today.

Or that does do it.

Unless they talk too long.

I do it relatively briefly, yeah.

Which is important, too.

I have one thought.

If it is special that I can go to Laura or Tom, I'm just wondering whether I should have my meeting with him.

He's had a three o'clock meeting today.

That's just the way you're meeting.

There's no need to have it.

That's what I was thinking.

Because Laura, I'd rather sit and do this and not really relax.

thinking about it.

Well, there's some other dimensions that we're being, I mean, with this afternoon to go over a whole graph of details that we need to get in there now.

He said he definitely would, and I think he liked it.

Um, no, not to rush down Saturday night.

I don't care about us being there first mid-Sunday morning.

If he just comes down a disconvenient Sunday, then you could meet him on Monday, probably.

Yeah, we'll meet on Monday, and he can have Sunday this way.

But if you go over the aisle, you don't want him to be Sunday.

And then we'll meet Monday, and Monday you can have a chance to meet him on Friday or something like that.

Let's make sure he's here by the line.

I talked to Park again on the Congress.

He said there is no reason, there will be nothing in the UG1.

They've got the big blow in the House today on bus busing.

And the House is going to stay in session until we get it done.

Good night.

And then they probably meet tomorrow.

And the Senate may possibly meet on Saturday.

But if they do, it will be to clean up.

They've got a whole bunch of garbage that they're going to try and clean up so they can get moving on.

Possibly double sessions starting next week.

Uh... Well, I'll tell you...

I'll try it again later, thank you.

Well...

He could leave right after her meeting, though.

No problem, he said.

And it's not because I think he needs a little time in May to improve his morale, at least, you know, his morale, but he's just, he's still got that obsession with cellifying, that's it.

Just cellifying.

And that catcher, that was technical, that little...

I don't mean to deliver an individual basis, but it may be that some exposure should

Part of the reason for that being as good as it was, the kind of thing it was, he had an exclusive subject.

He had some substance, but he was not allowed to use the substance.

He had to work around it, which worked out very bad.

We came out a hell of a lot better than if you had an interview with him.

And we would have gone back and written about what your views are on Vietnam, troop withdrawal, and, yeah, the Mideast situation.

This was, the word ten times does what that means, right?

And it had the appearance of great objectivity.

He was complimentary to the other presidents.

And all that came out, making him look very good.

What did you do with him?

talked about how you look, and your age, and all that.

And that's people, I can tell you from my experience, that's the Christ I care about in his age in Pakistan.

They don't give a shit.

You know what I mean?

They share our, that's the thing.

These people are all there.

They don't know what people are into.

It's just, like, I tell Ron all the time, even at his age, Ron doesn't give a shit about that stuff.

He's, that's all his people care about.

That's why, that's really why I'm listening.

You know the best thing I've said to him?

It was Indians.

That was a great group.

Nobody in the staff would have thought that up.

Of course, they didn't know what kind of day it was.

But nevertheless, it wasn't Indians on the day.

So that was in and of itself, of course, time.

That's what the hell it was.

No, no, no, no, no.

Well, how would they know?

How could they know?

Because they might have called over ourselves.

Called over the Indian sun, the sunshine, and so forth.

It was a goddamn good touch.

Sure was.

And their touch is about that.

Toast after toast after that.

I said, we must carry the Coast Watchers.

One Friday night, I should have picked that up.

I said, how many?

Hundreds of thousands of Americans that served in the South Pacific.

How about the Coast Watchers?

I've seen a lot of others.

I've seen movies.

But our people who do the writing basically are intellectuals.

Our people who see the press basically are looking for hard cuts.

Or he could be on a rocket ship like that.

He couldn't write about what I thought about Phoenix 2.

It wouldn't have been modern.

It would have been a nice little column.

That's what he would have done.

He had the one track he would keep running down the track.

And it's on Phase 2.

And it's not him.

So he says, I knew more about the Cleveland Browns than most of the women across.

Also, that was, for him, was much better.

reporter can write it and get an interview with a man and write what he's going to go up against.

You can see people have dinner upstairs with the president and talk about the behind-the-scenes kind of stuff.

It was good for them.

Well, it's a thing that I've said about some of these videos.

I used an Army example to watch the other day.

It was very impressive.

The price for our people, of course, they were as impactful as they can see them.

That was the hell of a goddamned adventure.

It's been a wonderful story to lead me in.

Is that a wonderful story?

What else did you say?

There are different kinds of people, Bob.

There are very practical men.

And God bless them.

And I will generally run around.

And then there are the offbeat guys.

You see something more as an offbeat guy.

That's why he said they've got to hang around.

Yes, sir.

As long as it catches.

Yep.

You can't forget it.

It's supposed to be.

There's nobody else to do the operation or pay for it or price for it or anything.

It's a matter of time.

I think we're going to do the Mexican president though.

Why I think about it this way, because it's a hell of a big thing.

We can't help it.

We're out of town.

It would be a hell of a thing.

There you go.

Florida.

Florida State University.

I think those that are in there on the new floor are seeing a roar in there and some black guy out there.

This could be a hell of a thing.

How far out of Miami is Mrs. Merriweather's boat's choice?

Is it Wayhunter's, you know?

No, it's Palm Beach.

Is it?

Yeah.

It's too far.

It's better to have a hotel, though, than anything.

You've got to cater to it, and you've got to do a hell of a lot of other things.

Have you been there?

No, but I looked at all the stuff on it, because I was, you know, you were looking to give it to the government.

The house that it's not going to live in.

It wouldn't.

I think it's pretty well kept up, but it may not be.

I'm not sure.

Well, we could take their...

I didn't listen.

You take my clothes.

I have to get you clothes.

There's crappy places to remind one that's peaceful.

Well, not all of the Jews came to a room.

The Jews came to a room.

Do you have a new room there?

Oh, yeah.

President's room.

Presidential room.

It's pretty stark.

Yeah.

I want one that has elephants.

But you've got that, and it's just so relevant in some cases.

But some of those, the Dovetails and a couple of the others, it's possible that that's a pretty good run.

But to put it in there where you've got this, you know, terrace as well.

Yeah.

Everything where it's all at.

Or go to the beach.

Go to Miami Beach.

Go to the beach.

I have a basically Florida guest list with 50 people from other parts of the South.

I know a great number of families, great groups of people.

The first thing that I believe is that it's going to be an energy break.

They can't be negative.

And we ought to get a pretty good amount of time because of the theme, because of the amount of focus there is on the economy, the amount of interest.

It's nothing natural.

Yeah, it's a violent thing.

We'll get it right.

It's a violent thing.

I don't know what it is.

The whole six to eight minutes of it, like, burning through the dowels.

I don't know what it is.

Right, I said that.

But we have to start up until the clouds come.

But you see, if our access is already dry since the day after the president's business, we'll have to switch to speech.

And, oh yes, here they are.

I'd like to, if they can, if they can help us,

Is that the director now?

He fired the hell out of him.

I don't think that might help it.

But they haven't bothered talking about the Bible in there.

That's no reason for him not to go.

Chris.

Unbelievable.

They feel the mess.

If you could just say...

It's goodwill.

It's fine.

But nobody wants to make a goodwill agreement.

That's why I call it negotiating substance.

I just, 53 of my companies just advertise goodwill.

That's all.

Maybe it's a pretty smart thing to do.

I don't have any expectation of substance.

Goodwill is directed to have talks.

What does it offer as goodwill?

It's a sense of wealth.

Basically, you ought to make a notice to have talks.

You ought to naturally have substance.

It's a goodwill to call it dialogue.

It's the idea that every time we go, they've got to come in with a new program.

That's what Bill was making on the Latin American thing.

We've got to be

All it can be is a consultation and move the riders down.

I think on your summit deal, because we can't let it come out like a flop.

Well, we're talking Kennedy or Johnson thing where they need a big bus out of a great new policy for the United States.

You're saying the purpose of this is that I want to go constant.

I was going to say, whatever my purpose is, I'm so worried.

We understated in each case.

I was consulting that if we got something, I could agree on his will.

I think maybe he can just say it's a good vote for him.

But I really think he kind of, you know, why didn't he?

Why didn't he want to be going down there to negotiate a new lack of policy?

And that's what he, that's what the theme of it was when we launched him back.

I said, no, we've got a new policy in America.

That's great.

Oh.

I broke the throat was the problem.

I said, look, after the elections, I can do that as an excuse and, you know, it's been a thing over the years.

I don't want to be subjected to colds and pressure.

And he raised herpes disease, which are, well, you can't just make it all up.

Actually, I agree.

I agree.

You have five or six.

And black, black.

You always have five or six.

And, uh,

So, I approached the subject.

And, uh...

I do want to follow up on some of the goals of the...

Uh... Yep.

If we...

If that won't fool her, either, then we'll... Tell her you don't do it, then tell her you're over it, Scott.

And it's good that you raised it on the list.

She's just done great.

And you just say that I didn't...

that she told me that she thought we ought to, that she was trying to include some of those, and good names, and that we shouldn't overdo it, but that we've got to get Italians and Poles and Irish Catholics, and that's, if you can, it feels it's very strong, and that I, my political antenna, taught me this, and that's what we should do.

I think she does make a good point on this.

She says that

We are overplaying Bob, and I think she is right.

And these dads and assistant secretaries, under secretaries, basically White House bad guys.

Except for, of course, Mr. and others that they need to see and talk to.

And her point is, she said that

You know, it means so much to people out of town right now.

And it doesn't mean all that much to people here.

It means something to them.

But they are here.

They're in the White House.

They see the President and all the rest.

And so forth.

Of course, that's really exciting.

Let's talk about after dinner.

It's better too, you know, if you know, you have the kids to choose the hand on.

There aren't times that we didn't have them on.

I just feel that she didn't mention it.

I'm sure that she didn't realize why we were having a fire deal.

I realized it was very important to have him be served.

I'm sure he was a top military man.

Yeah, that was the only time.

I know, I know, I know.

She didn't mention it, but I imagine that she did.

When I'm getting at it, she has a good fight with him.

Sure.

But she then raises this subject, and I think this is her hang-up.

She says, you know, I always tell these white-out staffers when they want to go, she says, I haven't been to any vendors lately.

She hasn't, you know, which is fine.

She should have come.

No reason for her to.

Now that Fred Russell's gone, she hasn't been, and I don't see no reason for her to.

Because she's been to the dinners.

I think she does perfectly well any time she wants to.

The dancers are perfect.

And the dance.

I think after you've been to a couple.

And, uh, and, and, and also everybody else after is, uh, very true.

Well, I think in the election year,

We shouldn't worry about the staff.

Yep.

And we shouldn't worry about any more undersecretaries and assistant secretaries.

We shouldn't worry about the agency.

We shouldn't worry.

We're loading the military in now.

Forget it.

I'd like to do that from a nice, to be nice to people.

We've been nice to, for three years, we've tried to be nice to people.

And we've done it now.

I don't mind.

I don't mind them coming after me.

But no more.

People should be there only if they, or staff people, only if they have to be there because of the foreigners.

Only because of the foreigners.

But I definitely put every god damn guess with somebody in order to try to mean something to them to come to the dinner.

I think it's good at talking, don't you agree?

I just get cold, cold, cold weather.

Rose actually sends me on this issue because she gets the letter, she wants me to go out and get that dinner.

Oh, there isn't any question about that.

It is.

It means, it means, and the people, the staff don't give a shit.

I mean, if they like it, but it's not all that much material for them.

Well, that's, you can't also let the cabin officers do, you know, cabin officers are a ton.

Yeah.

And I really have to, we always have so many.

I don't know why we can't get them to just, I think they're under a cabinry representation.

We don't have the representation.

It's totally ridiculous.

And I would have to do it for a Secretary of State, a Chief Justice, Secretary of the ATW, Arthur Burns, two Senators, which is fine, or half a dozen Congressmen, which is okay.

You're working with those, but then you get down to

That's it.

We didn't.

It was the other night we had the Undersecretary.

Oh, we had it.

We had it.

We're low on cabinet tonight.

Well, let me say that's excellent.

Well, you're now on the cabinet.

I'm on the secretary.

This lady is one of the cabinet officers.

I don't blame you.

That's what you've done tonight.

That's all.

And then the Justice of the Court is probably a good idea.

That's always something to do.

Who is it tonight?

Stewart.

That's good.

You're going to have a Stewart fight in the back, too.

I see my plan.

There is a great American, Jerry Simms, in there.

Oh, shit.

Now who the hell added him?

He should not be.

I've appointed him to something.

He's got a job.

We had, for example, the generals on the Iron Street show agency.

Now, that's heard it.

Tonight, we're going to be careful.

We're overloaded.

You've got the Commandant and the Coast Guard.

The Vice Chief of Staff of the Air Force, the Deputy Chief of Staff of Personnel of the Army.

This is General Quantico.

You see, they're up there.

The one, the only one that Rose really listens to is putting things on his heels.

And he'll use them.

He'll naturally use them to get all these people in.

He'll just turn them all off.

I'm not going to have any more military people.

I'm not going to do it.

You know, it's bad for the Indians.

Yeah, we've got a lot of people who do some good, too.

You know, Lou Harris.

Oh, I think they do well.

My point is, I'd love to do all that, but they're being handed in the first three years, and looking for the next four years, whatever the case may be, that might just be the people we want.

But right now,

I don't want to see anybody on that list, unless it either has to be there that they've distinguished guests, or it has to be there, or it is there, because it's not a possible thing.

You see?

I really believe that.

I don't see they're going to have all these anti-military people.

No more.

They're no good.

You know, you can argue that it's a good idea to have cabin officers or justices or senior staff because they handle the other guests.

You know, there's some other groups, too, and that's good to have.

Most people like to meet in there.

All right.

We're about out of time.

I don't have any statements anymore, you know, so we've just moved on.

Can you shut up for a moment?

I, uh, I think what we've got to do is get a security provider.

I, uh, also, I decided that I'm going to have to leave you to get up.

I had a very hard time.

And, uh, I'm going to get a very, uh, rough job.

Over there, please.

No, over side.

Other side.

The one-day visit deal.

I may do a couple of them.

I mean, one or two of those.

If it's somebody that's goddamn good.

It's very important.

A little country.

One-day formal visit.

Good idea.

We don't read it from a foreign publisher standpoint.

Maybe the evening at the White House is a better use of the time.

What do you think?

By the evening at the White House, can we have some nice dinner?

Well, you can get a hell of a lot more people at the evening at the White House than I suggest.

Can we do it without shaking their hands?

I think so.

Very definitely.

But I don't know.

Well, no, I've got the church service.

Well, almost turned to that.

But why not in the evening at the White House?

Just invite them for an evening.

I don't think when they come in the evening, they expect to shake hands with the president.

Do you?

Or do you?

No.

I don't think they do, but there's two schools that have other students.

You have the whole social office path.

I think it is her idea, but they really beat on it too.

To Lucy and Winchester, who feel very strongly that they're basically the other ones that push on the church.

They're parochial as hell.

I don't think he understood.

Because that is a long procession, right, for that eating.

In city life, it's always an hour.

It's like church.

It's an hour and 15 minutes.

It's 300, and that kind of people take that long.

Not quite.

It's about an hour.

About an hour.

There's a Sanford link in the video about his second inauguration.

to show you how numbers get inflated and how it's credited mostly to the president, Lincoln.

And his inauguration went to the inaugural ball.

And he's here in the East Room.

And he took hands for three hours.

And he took hands with 6,000 people.

There ain't no way you can get 6,000 people in three hours.

First of all, there's no way you can get 6,000 people in the eastern beginning.

Well, this is the patent office, I think.

There was some sort of where they were at the patent office, and they'd bring them in as ships or something like that.

But my point is, wherever it was, they had 6,000.

There were 6,000.

But the eastern Kansas was 6,000 people.

No way.

You know you can't do 1,000 an hour.

You have to maximize running them.

We have them in campaigns where you can get pretty close to 1,000 an hour.

Boy, you have to have people pushing them, body blocking them, pushing them, pushing them, body blocking them, no talk.

Set up a huge crowd.

You crush them and shake them away.

And nobody in the line.

Just you and, uh, and the Reverend, and you convicted that church thing.

I, I interviewed you with that church for less than an hour.

Of course, there you stand and chat with those folks.

I know.

But you do it the easy way, the White House together.

And the Lincoln and Hawthorne, you must have, too.

You can't show that it's number one.

That's the thing.

That's the center.

It's all about the talk.

It's all about the spirit.

Is the minute still up?

Could you, uh, could you, uh, do any good incidentally with, uh, Hayden?

Oh, no.

I, I, I think just, just think of him.

You know, we know these things.

Uh, let's just take him to the floor.

Let's see if, and let me change his mind a little bit.

Is this, is this really good?

No.

All right, well, all right.

Let me tell you this.

I think he's way overreacting to the fact, you know what, you know what he's really reacting to?

Is that they're blaming the U.N. vote on that.

He is.

He really thought his chance to write a paper story was not going to help the story.

Also, you can tell from reading his memorandum of color, he was terribly disappointed when they didn't have him aroused in the street.

And he was disappointed when he returned his story to him.

Well, that's all right.

I don't know where he's going.

We'll help him.

Oh, geez.

Well, great.

I don't know if Florida's a proper good idea.

Well, I got that.

Right.

I'll put him over at the hotel.

I think that's a better hotel.

Yeah.

You know, there were people who thought Mitchell had the house, which Mitchell, because Mitchell likes that house.

Oh, yeah.

I was one of them.