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Conversation 614-021

TapeTape 614StartThursday, November 4, 1971 at 6:23 PMEndThursday, November 4, 1971 at 6:25 PMTape start time02:00:42Tape end time02:02:28ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Timmons, William E.Recording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon and William E. Timmons discussed legislative strategies for securing foreign aid funding, focusing on overcoming resistance within the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. The participants assessed current vote counts among conservatives and expressed confidence in capturing necessary swing votes. To avoid future legislative roadblocks, Nixon directed that foreign assistance be bundled into the defense appropriation bill going forward.

Foreign aidLegislative strategyDefense appropriationSenate Foreign Relations CommitteeCongressional relations
AudioNARA Description

On November 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons met in the Oval Office of the White House from 6:23 pm to 6:25 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 614-021 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 614-21

Date: November 4, 1971
Time: 6:23 pm - 6:25 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with William E. Timmons.
[The recording begins at an unknown time while the meeting was is progress]

     Pending legislation
          -Foreign aid
               -Senate
                      -Conservatives
                           -Possible outcome
                      -Foreign Relations Committee
          -Defense Appropriation Bill
               -House of Representatives
          -The President's schedule

Timmons left at 6:25 pm.
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Okay, security assistance.
That's a question we don't know.
I think you can.
I think that all our conservatives are getting in line.
I think there have been enough swing votes to carry it.
That's my guess.
But obviously they think that it's not the case.
God damn it, Rick.
The thing to do, though, we've got to skip this next year.
We're never going to let it go to that foreign relations committee again.
Right?
Right.
Put it in the defense appropriation.
Now, the House is still proceeding, isn't it, on the business of putting it in the defense appropriation bill?
I thought you might want to know that for a night if something comes up.
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