Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 614-024
Date: Thursday, November 4, 1971 at 6:28 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/614-024

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[0:00] Well, if they were, it was good to spend a little time with them.
[0:20] You know, just go out and make a little help.
[0:24] A lot of times they may go out and
[0:28] Did Russo get them?
[0:51] Yeah.
[0:51] Good.
[0:51] Rally?
[0:51] It's a little gorgeous, huh?
[0:52] Makes it all worthwhile.
[0:52] That's all right.
[0:52] I thought it was a great accompaniment.
[0:53] Excuse that.
[0:54] I'll go back.
[0:54] I didn't apologize.
[0:54] I want to be heard.
[0:55] We don't need live dancing.
[0:55] I'm just great.
[0:56] I'm fine.
[0:59] I don't like it.
[1:21] The only thing I ever liked about ballet was the music.
[1:22] Yeah.
[1:22] So I despise it, and I'll close my eyes.
[1:23] Ballet is great.
[1:24] This is the music.
[1:24] That's all I despise about it.
[1:25] Good God, oh, I can't be any more.
[1:25] Well, but just bury it.
[1:26] You know, you just give him a shot and leave.
[1:27] And that's all set up.
[1:27] He's taken away his mind.
[1:28] Well,
[1:31] No, it's not off.
[1:36] It goes far away.
[1:37] And when you scale it up, you're all right, I've got it.
[1:41] And he's really cranked up.
[1:42] He's all set to really go.
[1:58] Okay.
[2:03] Copy of the program you have for the entertainment tonight.
[2:29] Yes, sir.
[2:29] I understand.
[2:29] I know what the program is.
[2:30] I want to see what the guests are looking at.
[2:31] And you should always be able to spy on them, too.
[2:44] He's got an amnesia.
[3:09] Hard working people realize you have to go through this shit ass list to see who the hell is kind.
[3:11] So that I can recognize everybody.
[3:11] Because the people that are used to do the best they can are most of them.
[3:13] Don't you, don't we have to tell you what you know?
[3:14] I don't have to do it.
[3:32] I believe that we can cut down our own statues.
[3:33] I got that through the road.
[3:33] She said, what do you want?
[3:34] She's lucky.
[3:39] And you've covered the military establishment.
[3:55] And now I don't want to quit.
[3:56] I'll go to a good job.
[3:56] We should be happy to pick one.
[3:58] Let's just not have people bother the future, except for Kissinger, who've been to dinners before.
[4:16] Would that be a good idea?
[4:18] On our own staff.
[4:18] Let's just do that.
[4:19] I don't think you need to let them come to the after dinner.
[4:20] If they come to the after dinner, then they should come in a special way.
[4:21] Come right in after coffee.
[4:22] They'll come with the other moms and come and eat together.
[4:23] See what I mean?
[4:24] Yeah.
[4:24] You see, the dinner is just a bullshit thing anyway.
[4:25] So have them come in right there and talk to you at that time.
[4:39] I bet you use these for all the work, huh?
[4:56] Yep.
[4:56] Well, Rose, I've got a track on this one.
[4:59] Somebody from the goddamn State Department put 50 people on them.
[5:02] The Indian America Society.
[5:12] Well, Steve, there's some relief.
[5:16] Advisory panel on South Asian relief.
[5:17] Well, I've got them.
[5:17] They don't need to come to this event.
[5:18] I'll put them on the panel.
[5:19] That's enough.
[5:19] Yeah, Max Drive.
[5:21] Max Drive shouldn't get his feet in this White House.
[5:22] Jim Perkins.
[5:26] Perkins is a follow-up.
[5:27] Joe Johnson.
[5:27] The Carnegie Foundation and the Love of Wings Foundation.
[5:45] Yes, I know who he is.
[5:46] Oh, yes.
[5:46] Yes, Bob.
[5:46] We're doing a good enough job, and he says I know that it's very sensitive roles, but, you know, we're not going to have any more dinners, but I just don't think that we ought to let the activists get in here and force things on the list that should be on it.
[5:55] Bob, yes.
[5:57] Yeah, and the guy, well, I'll get, who is the guy?
[6:17] No, Charlie Colson's the guy whose name should be on the list, because he's the one that's got the names of the, you know, the people who do some political good.
[6:20] And that, he's the guy who's got my name on the list.
[6:21] Because I do not like to do people's work.
[6:22] Well, I don't think people would appreciate me before I get some labor guy who's got a terrible record.
[6:24] They won't let him in.
[6:27] I want you to be made a character, particularly, if you will, in the reading that I gave when she came in.
[6:43] Right?
[6:43] Because it was a goddamn, it was a, it was a special line about not bound by dreams, but by a higher morality and so forth and so on.
[6:46] And the sunshine's in her relation.
[6:46] How do you give that to somebody to see if maybe, just maybe, if you get the conversation, right?
[6:55] One of the major purposes is not to get it in the column, to get our people like wrong, to get us thinking about it.
[7:17] See, Ron saw the point of it.
[7:18] Maybe he did.
[7:18] You know, sometimes.
[7:18] And he may see more of it than I realize.
[7:19] It's not his job, because he basically has to do anything.
[7:20] But he looks for stuff like that, and that was one of the best ones.
[7:22] And Henry was the first to recognize it.
[7:23] And I did it, of course, myself, because I spent some time on it.
[7:25] Goddamn, I just want to see.
[7:35] Do you want to do a report?
[7:36] Yep.
[7:36] Or anybody else?
[7:36] If they did, they need somebody.
[7:48] Yep.
[7:55] You know, I wonder if anybody else is going to go over to the side and just see that.
[8:25] I think Garnison has to stay here because he's got to do some arts pencil thing this weekend.
[8:50] Definitely.
[8:51] I'm trying to think where he's worked here.
[8:53] You can think of anybody else.
[8:54] Yes, there's one other which, well, no, that...
[8:56] I thought it was just Bill Timmons.
[9:09] It was actually really Buzz Hacker's ass and X.
[9:10] You've heard it.
[9:10] I couldn't agree more.
[9:11] I want to do a frazzle that never gets in on anything like that.
[9:12] You know, these results, I'm going to try to improve on them.
[9:13] And the basis is that I want to be there to watch the bulls and so forth, sir.
[9:22] Now there's a kind of a...
[9:36] Here's a kind of a... Oh, he is.
[9:36] He's going to go to the library.
[9:41] He's going to go to the way back.
[9:42] That's right.
[9:43] The boy that you met.
[9:43] But he bothers us too much.
[9:44] He has a very high... As you know, for you and anybody else who goes, the kid and so forth, whenever you go, it's a total cool birdie.
[9:47] And he has to have to go to the rest room.
[9:50] People say, gee whiz, only the people in the present dispose of the present.
[10:01] They would go, we don't need to go.
[10:03] You know, it's that bullshit.
[10:04] And I just, there was some of that, you know, I'm curious.
[10:05] They know that, they don't.
[10:06] Well, no, they know that you have to.
[10:07] People who are there don't give a shit about anything.
[10:08] Most of them.
[10:09] The ones who've been, well, they know who we're.
[10:15] Because they're on the phone to us all the time, I'm sure.
[10:21] Oh, it's good to do.
[10:49] It's very good to do.
[10:49] Oh, it's good to do.
[10:52] I wouldn't have it.
[11:10] I wouldn't have it.
[11:13] How's that it?
[11:28] You know, is there any way you can get Wally?
[11:47] Don't have Alex go through with it.
[11:50] She doesn't get it off of him.
[11:51] But I think you could do it with Rose.
[11:53] She wants to do the right thing.
[12:16] And she does.
[12:16] She carries on that line.
[12:17] She's skillful at it.
[12:17] But I really believe it would.
[12:18] It's worth my time.
[12:18] Because the time is so precious.
[12:19] Remember, it's the time we spend in here.
[12:19] We're going to see some assholes.
[12:20] And it's worth my time.
[12:21] Yeah.
[12:25] All right, good.
[12:47] Stand there.
[12:51] It's one thing to tell a guy that some great people are in the office and you've got to show them something.
[13:20] Well, that's what I've heard with the kids.
[13:21] We love that one.
[13:37] Yeah.
[13:38] Yeah.
[13:38] Oh, that's nice.
[13:38] Well, okay.
[13:38] Get a lovely nice dinner tonight.
[13:39] Thank you.
[13:39] Oh, yeah, sir.
[13:39] Thank you.
[13:40] Thank you.