{"conversationCode":"615-007","tapeNumber":615,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-615-007","startDateTime":"1971-11-05T14:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-05T14:23:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Nov-1971","startTime":"9:10 AM","endDate":"5-Nov-1971","endTime":"9:23 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On November 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:10 am and 9:23 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 615-007 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 615-007\n\nDate: November 5, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 9:10 am and 9:23 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Arthur F. Burns\n               -Possible appointment\n                      -Florida\n                      -Telephone call\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n                       -Indira Gandhi\n                       -Return call\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:23 am.","filename":["615-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:39:28","tapeEnd":"01:41:18","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"615-006","nextCode":"615-008","transcript":[{"start":1.55,"end":4.46,"text":"He should call."},{"start":4.48,"end":9.47,"text":"As a matter of fact, I will see him."},{"start":9.49,"end":16.64,"text":"Because, uh, you don't mind taking off the floor at 12, and I'll tell you when I can park you back in a few minutes."},{"start":16.66,"end":17.4,"text":"So better make it at 12, uh, 15."},{"start":17.42,"end":20.41,"text":"He indicated yesterday that he could have handled whatever it was on the telephone."},{"start":20.43,"end":23.15,"text":"Unless he said something otherwise, I saw him talking to you last night."},{"start":39.35,"end":58.98,"text":"So then, if he does call, would you have him come in together and try to say what he'd like to drop by?"},{"start":58.99,"end":61.48,"text":"Because he's seeing Mrs. Gandhi, and whether the meeting will be over or not, we'll get you on the phone in a moment."},{"start":61.5,"end":61.96,"text":"We'll see you then."},{"start":62.52,"end":63.42,"text":"We'd like you to visit his office."},{"start":63.44,"end":64.82,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":64.84,"end":65.84,"text":"Yes, give him a call."},{"start":65.86,"end":68.97,"text":"And, uh, Dr. Burns, uh, you, you were just following up, and I think we did, so I agreed with you last night."},{"start":70.15,"end":83.07,"text":"You might have to wait because I'll be talking to the scotty and it may not be true."},{"start":83.13,"end":84.99,"text":"Would you rather talk to my phone and we can do it that way?"},{"start":85.01,"end":85.42,"text":"I don't really care."},{"start":85.44,"end":87.62,"text":"It's a very important matter."},{"start":87.64,"end":91.95,"text":"So call the state insurance and call them."},{"start":91.97,"end":93.05,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull coordinated scheduling logistics regarding an upcoming meeting with Arthur F. Burns. The President directed Bull to facilitate communication with Burns concerning his recent discussions with Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi. Additionally, the pair managed internal administrative arrangements to ensure these high-priority diplomatic and economic updates were handled promptly.","topics":["Arthur F. Burns","Indira Gandhi","Presidential scheduling","White House operations","Diplomacy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T00:48:27.373Z"},"topicSlugs":["arthur-f-burns","indira-gandhi","presidential-scheduling","white-house-operations","diplomacy"],"audioDurationSec":93,"audioFiles":[{"file":"615-007.mp3","bytes":3725893,"durationSec":93.01,"bitrate":320456,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.996Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:07.867Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/615-007.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/615-007","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/615/conversation-615-007","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}