{"conversationCode":"615-010","tapeNumber":615,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-615-010","startDateTime":"1971-11-05T15:29:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-05T15:33:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Nov-1971","startTime":"10:29 AM","endDate":"5-Nov-1971","endTime":"10:33 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On November 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:29 am and 10:33 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 615-010 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 615-010\n\nDate: November 5, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 10:29 am and 10:33 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     Unknown person\n         -Height\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Signing ceremony\n                -Gifts\n                       -Pens\n                -Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n                       -Tour\n                       -Photographs\n                             -Executive Office Building [EOB]\n                -Charles R. Jonas\n                -Photograph\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:33 am.","filename":["615-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:24:48","tapeEnd":"02:26:05","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"615-009","nextCode":"615-011","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":12.15,"text":"We're now six foot tall, sir."},{"start":13.29,"end":21,"text":"Why don't we just move on?"},{"start":21.02,"end":21.22,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":21.24,"end":25.54,"text":"It's a cop."},{"start":25.56,"end":26.04,"text":"It sounds like a horror."},{"start":26.06,"end":26.45,"text":"That's exciting."},{"start":26.46,"end":26.84,"text":"Like a great song."},{"start":27.39,"end":27.61,"text":"It's a gun."},{"start":27.63,"end":27.85,"text":"It's a gun."},{"start":27.87,"end":28.09,"text":"It's a gun."},{"start":28.11,"end":28.33,"text":"It's a gun."},{"start":28.35,"end":29.15,"text":"It's a gun."},{"start":29.17,"end":29.39,"text":"It's a gun."},{"start":29.41,"end":29.63,"text":"It's a gun."},{"start":29.65,"end":29.87,"text":"It's a gun."},{"start":32.68,"end":42.13,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":45.52,"end":57.49,"text":"I'd like to recommend that you use your own pen in this proclamation so that Bob, we don't have to... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate logistical details for upcoming ceremonial events. The discussion focused on scheduling a signing ceremony, managing the distribution of souvenir pens, and arranging photography sessions for participants, including Charles R. Jonas and Julie Nixon Eisenhower. The pair also reviewed plans for a tour and photo opportunity at the Executive Office Building.","topics":["White House scheduling","Ceremonial events","Stephen B. Bull","Photography logistics","Presidential protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T00:48:44.024Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-scheduling","ceremonial-events","stephen-b-bull","photography-logistics","presidential-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":58,"audioFiles":[{"file":"615-010.mp3","bytes":2311101,"durationSec":57.65,"bitrate":320718,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.995Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:07.870Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/615-010.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/615-010","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/615/conversation-615-010","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}