{"conversationCode":"615-016","tapeNumber":615,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-615-016","startDateTime":"1971-11-05T16:09:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-05T16:13:00.000Z","startDate":"5-Nov-1971","startTime":"11:09 AM","endDate":"5-Nov-1971","endTime":"11:13 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On November 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:09 am and 11:13 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 615-016 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 615-016\n\nDate: November 5, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 11:09 am and 11:13 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -William P. Rogers\n                -Location\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n                       -Cabinet Room\n                 -Indira Gandhi\n                       -Arrival\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:13 am.","filename":["615-016.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:01:16","tapeEnd":"03:01:54","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"615-015","nextCode":"615-017","transcript":[{"start":0.17,"end":11.24,"text":"Mr. President, Secretary of Justice is in the cabin right now, and I'll show you how this is going to go."},{"start":11.27,"end":13.11,"text":"Before she's, before she's, before she's alive and well, may it be a good day for everybody."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate the logistics for upcoming meetings in the Cabinet Room. The discussion focused on scheduling details regarding Secretary of State William P. Rogers and the arrival of Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi. Bull briefed the President on the movements of these officials to ensure the administration's preparations were aligned.","topics":["Presidential schedule","William P. Rogers","Indira Gandhi","Diplomatic protocol","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T00:49:16.956Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","william-p-rogers","indira-gandhi","diplomatic-protocol","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"615-016.mp3","bytes":528505,"durationSec":13.08,"bitrate":323327,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.995Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:07.872Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/615-016.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/615-016","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/615/conversation-615-016","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}