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Start Date: 5-Nov-1971 12:25 PM

End Date: 5-Nov-1971 12:49 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.[Unknown person(s)]

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 04:14:23

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 04:39:39

615a.mp3

615b.mp3

615c.mp3

NARA Description:

On November 5, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:25 pm to 12:49 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 615-025 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 615-25

Date: November 5, 1971
Time: 12:25 pm - 12:49 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger and an unknown man.
[The recording begins at an unknown time while the meeting was is progress]
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                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)



     The President's schedule
          -Departure time
               -Helicopter
          -Meeting with Arthur F. Burns

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:25 pm.

     The President's schedule

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:30 pm.

     Kissinger's schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:30 pm.

     The President's previous conversation with Indira Gandhi
          -The President's preceding conversation with William P. Rogers
               -US aid
                      -Possible war
          -The President’s forthcoming trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
               -Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
          -Middle East
          -Vietnam
               -Possible US military action
                      -Possible message to Vietnamese, USSR
          -The President's 1969 visit to India
               -Cambodia
          -Tone

     Gandhi's visit to Cabinet

     Gandhi’s visit
         -Significance

Arthur F. Burns entered at 12:30 pm.

     Kissinger's conversation with Burns

     United States foreign policy
          -State Department
          -Kissinger's role
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                              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 615-25 (cont.)


                   -Willy Brandt
             -Peter G. Peterson

     Kissinger's schedule
          -Washington Star event
          -Soviet reception

Kissinger left at 12:31 pm.

     White House dinner for Gandhi, November 4, 1971
          -Julie Nixon Eisenhower

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 12:31 pm.

     Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:49 pm.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 51s ]


     INDIA


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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     Middle East
         -India's position
               -United Arab Republic [UAR]
                     -Gamal Abdel Nasser

     India
             -US aid
                                             50

                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                     Conv. No. 615-25 (cont.)


          -US popular opinion
               -USSR

     National economy
          -Money supply
                -Reactions
          -Economic indicators
                -Unemployment
                -Prices
          -Money supply
                -Expansion
                      -Timing
                -The President's letter to Burns
                      -Rose Mary Woods
                      -Copies
                      -John B. Connally, Peterson and George P. Shultz
                -Interest rates
                -Calls to Woods
                      -Bernard J. (“Bunny”) Lasker
                      -Gustave L. Levy
                -Burns's previous meetings with members of the Federal Advisory Council and
                      former Federal Reserve Board [FRB] members

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:31 pm.

     Arrangements for photograph

Bull left and the White House photographer entered at an unknown time before 12:49 pm.

The White House photographer left at an unknown time before 12:49 pm.

     National economy
          -Money supply
                -Burns's meetings, November 4, 1971
                     -Attendees
                           -Bankers, industrials
                -FRB policy
                -Milton Friedman

Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:31 pm.
                                                51

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. 10/06)
                                                                    Conv. No. 615-25 (cont.)


     Instructions regarding briefcase

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:49 pm.

     National economy
          -Money supply
                -Expansion
          -Dividend guideline
                -Connally
                -Charles W. Colson's call to Burns
                -Quadriad meeting
          -Pay Board
                -Wage settlements
                     -Retroactivity
                           -Congress
                -George Meany's possible action
                     -The President's response
                     -Re-imposition of freeze
                     -Cost of Living Council [COLC]
                           -Discretion
                                  -Teachers
                     -Appeal for moderation
                           -Re-imposition of freeze
                                  -Delay
          -Money supply
          -Dwight D. Eisenhower's economic advisors
                -1960
          -The President's relations with Burns, Paul W. McCracken and unknown person

     The President’s schedule
          -Recent meeting with Indians

Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:31 pm.

     The President’s schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:49 pm.

     National economy
          -The President's forthcoming conversation with Wright Patman
                -Stabilization program
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                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. 10/06)
                                                                   Conv. No. 615-25 (cont.)


                -Talking paper
                     -Bull

     Patman's schedule
         -Pauline (Tucker) Patman
                -Forthcoming dinner for Emilio Garrastazu Medici
                -The President’s forthcoming call to Patman

     Federal budget
          -1954
               -Wage contracts
          -1956
               -Gen. Andrew J. Goodpaster
          -1970
          -Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
          -Tax incentives
               -Politics
                     -March 1972
          -Weinberger

     The President's schedule
          -Florida

     The President's conversation with Indira Gandhi
          -Tone
          -Unknown woman and man

     Money supply

Burns left at 12:49 pm.