{"conversationCode":"616-004","tapeNumber":616,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-616-004","startDateTime":"1971-11-10T17:56:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-10T18:00:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Nov-1971","startTime":"12:56 PM","endDate":"10-Nov-1971","endTime":"1:00 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On November 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:56 pm and 1:00 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 616-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 616-4\n\nDate: November 10, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:56 pm and 1:00 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Richard Wilson\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 1:00 pm.","filename":["616-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:12:17","tapeEnd":"00:12:59","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"616-003","nextCode":"616-005","transcript":[{"start":0.67,"end":15.46,"text":"I want to see Wilson alone, but all people like the rest of the people are at the same time."},{"start":15.48,"end":16.28,"text":"So how long do we have to wait for that?"},{"start":16.3,"end":16.86,"text":"We have to wait a half hour."},{"start":16.88,"end":17.28,"text":"That's all he wants."},{"start":17.3,"end":18.23,"text":"That's what I, that's what he, what he wants."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed logistical arrangements for an upcoming meeting with journalist Richard Wilson. Nixon expressed his desire to meet with Wilson privately, separate from a larger group of individuals. Bull confirmed the necessary scheduling adjustments, noting a thirty-minute wait period before the meeting could proceed.","topics":["Richard Wilson","White House scheduling","Media relations","Presidential meetings"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T00:50:44.444Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-wilson","white-house-scheduling","media-relations","presidential-meetings"],"audioDurationSec":21,"audioFiles":[{"file":"616-004.mp3","bytes":846154,"durationSec":21.02,"bitrate":321984,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.997Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/616-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/616-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/616/conversation-616-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}