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Start Date: 10-Nov-1971 4:20 PM

End Date: 10-Nov-1971 5:17 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Rogers, William P.Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Haig, Alexander M., Jr.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:34:02

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:30:03

616a.mp3

616b.mp3

NARA Description:

On November 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, William P. Rogers, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:20 pm to 5:17 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 616-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 616-9

Date: November 10, 1971
Time: 4:20 pm - 5:17 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with William P. Rogers, H. R. Haldeman and Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
[The recording begins at an unknown time while the meeting was is progress]

     Japan
          -US return of territory [Okinawa]
               -Impact
                     -Kiichi Aichi
                           -Treaty

     Pending legislation
          -Foreign aid program
               -Continuing resolution
                      -Samuel L. Devine
                      -H. Allen Smith
                      -Hubert H. Humphrey
                      -Humanitarian
                           -Compared to military
                      -Charles H. Percy
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    Percy
         -Speech on the President's foreign policy, November 9, 1971
              -Vietnam
              -Foreign aid
              -Mutual assistance


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    Rogers
        -Meeting with Republican caucus, November 9. 1971
            -Percy
        -Conversation with Robert J. Dole, November 9, 1971
        -Conversation with Milton R. Young

    Foreign aid program
         -Number and location of employees
         -Military assistance
               -Korea and Vietnam


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    Ivory Coast
         -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's schedule
              -United Nations [UN] vote
                    -Taiwan, Republic of China
              -[Felix Houphouet-Boigny]
                    -Wife
              -Dam
                    -Possible dedication

    Mrs. Nixon's schedule
         -Liberia
              -William F. (“Billy”) Graham
                    -Inauguration
                    -Travel arrangements
              -Travel arrangements
                    -David D. Newsom
                    -Unknown woman
              -Airplanes
              -Rogers's conversation with Mrs. Nixon
              -The President’s trip
              -Itinerary
                    -Ghana, Ivory Coast

    The President's schedule
         -Latin American trip
               -Haldeman
               -Forthcoming State of the Union address
                     -Domestic emphasis
                          -Economics
                          -Vietnam
               -Panama
               -Fidel Castro’s schedule
                     -Chile
               -Organization of American States [OAS]
                     -Meeting
                          -Agenda
                          -Theme
                          -Surcharges
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-Possible itinerary
     -Panama
            -Darien Gap
                  -Possible name change
                  -Pan-America Highway
                  -Colombia, Mexico, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Honduras, El
                       Salvador
                       -Meeting with the President
     -Jamaica
     -Haiti
     -Barbados
     -Guyana
     -Brasilia
     -Argentina
            -Unknown place
                  -Dwight D. Eisenhower’s trip
     -Panama
            -Security
     -Accommodations
-Jamaica
     -John Rawlings
-Possible itinerary
     -South America
            -Central America
     -Jamaica
     -Trinidad and Tobago
-Eisenhower's visit to Panama
-Panama, South America
     -Jamaica
-Purpose
     -Number of nations
            -Chile
-Timing
     -Argentina
     -Panama
-Purpose
     -Surcharge exemptions
            -Exports
            -General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade [GATT]
     -Fishing rights
            -Peru, Ecuador, Chile
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                    -Generalized trade preferences legislation
        -Forthcoming trips to People's Republic of China [PRC] and Union of Soviet
             Socialist Republics [USSR]
        -Rogers's schedule
              -Latin America
              -Western Europe
                    -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
        -Foreign travel
              -PRC, USSR
              -Europe
              -Japan
        -Latin American trip
              -Political significance of trip
              -Security
              -John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson
              -Purposes
                    -Exemptions, fishing rights, Inter-American Development Bank [IDB]
                           replenishment, general preferences
                    -Explanation of US policy
              -Timing
                    -January 1972
                    -Congress schedule
              -Arrangements
                    -Consultation
                           -“Stag”
                           -Mrs. Nixon’s schedule
              -Timing
                    -Congress schedule
                           -Clark MacGregor
                    -State of the Union address
                           -Preparation
              -Preparation
                    -Compared to other visits
                           -Indira Gandhi


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                         -PRC trip
         -Panama
              -Other meetings
                    -John D. Lodge
              -Arrangements
                    -“Stag”
                    -Number of meetings
              -Other meetings
         -USSR trip
              -Rogers’s memorandum
                    -Haig
                    -Suggestion
                    -Trip to unknown place

    International economic policy
          -Rogers's meeting with business advisory group
                -Uncertainty
          -John B. Connally
          -Japan
          -Latin America
          -Canada
          -Nelson A. Rockefeller
          -Most Favored Nation [MFN] treaties
                -Commodity basis
          -Price of gold
                -UN
                -William Proxmire and Henry S. Reuss
          -France
                -Trade with US
                      -Surcharges
          -Rogers's schedule
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                -George P. Shultz
                -Peter G. Peterson
                -Shultz
                -Arthur F. Burns
          -Price of gold
                -Burns
                -Shultz
                -Connally
          -Rogers’s meeting with business advisory group

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:20 pm.

     The President's schedule
          -Carl T. Curtis

Bull left at an unknown time before 5:00 pm.

     International economic policy
           -Domestic effect

     Vietnam
          -Troop withdrawal

Haldeman left at 5:00 pm.

               -Melvin R. Laird
               -Henry A. Kissinger
          -Negotiations
          -Troop withdrawal
               -The President's conversation with Laird, November 10, 1971
               -Announcement
                     -Timing
                     -Possible effect on negotiations
                           -Economic aid
                           -Military assistance
                           -Kissinger
                     -Timing
                           -Expectations
                     -Draftees
                     -Laird
                     -Prisoners of war [POWs]
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                     -Possible reaction
                -Laird’s plan
                     -Residual force
                            -Possible size
                -Announcement
                     -Timing
                            -Congress
                -Edmund S. Muskie
                     -Vietnam as political issue
                -Announcement
                     -Timing
                     -Residual force
                            -Possible size
                     -Announcement
                            -Timing
                                 -Finality
                     -Residual force
                            -POWs
                            -Purpose
                     -Aid to South Vietnam

     The President's schedule
          -Curtis

     Vietnam
          -Possible military collapse by South Vietnam
               -Timing
          -Troop withdrawal
               -Announcement

Rogers and Haig left at 5:17 pm.