Conversation: 618-011
Prev: 618-010 Next: 618-012Start Date: Monday, November 15, 1971 1:54 PM
End Date: Monday, November 15, 1971 3:20 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Flanigan, Peter M.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Bull, Stephen B.; Kissinger, Henry A.; White House operator; Connally, John B.Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:53:01
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 02:19:25
NARA Description:
On November 15, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Peter M. Flanigan, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, Henry A. Kissinger, White House operator, and John B. Connally met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:54 am to 10:20 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 618-011 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 618-11
Date: November 15, 1971
Time: 8:54 am - 10:20 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Peter M. Flanigan.
Federal Reserve Board [FRB]
-Appointments
-Unknown man from Texas
-Patrick E. Haggerty
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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-John B. Connally
-Arthur F. Burns
-World Bank
-Democrat
-Republican
-Democrats
-Williamson S. Stuckey, Jr.
H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 8:59 am.
-Hoyt Ammidon
-Burns's views
-Connally
-Stuckey
-Money supply
-Burns's talk in New York City
-Gabriel Hauge's views
-Appointments
-Stuckey
-Clark MacGregor's views
-Republicans
-Frederic V. Malek
-List
North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
-Mansfield D. Sprague
-John J. McCloy
-Henry A. Kissinger
-William P. Rogers
-Schedule
Japan
-Armin H. Meyer
-Paul W. McCracken
-George Champion
-Charles D. (“Tex”) Thornton
-Ammidon
-Elizabeth (Callaway) Ammidon
-Finances
-France
-Alice (James) Meyer
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
-Ammidon
-Flanigan's forthcoming conversations
-Connally and Rogers
-Champion
Walter N. Thayer
-NATO
-Sprague
-Eastern Establishment
-Possible role with Administration
-FRB
-Japan
-NATO
-Loyalty
-Ash Council
-Views regarding Connally
-Staff
-Ripon Society
-State Department
-Connally
-Kissinger
-[David] Kenneth Rush
Ammidon
-Possible role with Administration
Japan
-US Ambassador
-Flanigan's conversation with Rogers
-Meyer
-Champion
-Flanigan's forthcoming conversation with Connally
Thayer
-Possible role with Administration
-NATO
Ammidon
-Corporate experience
-Japan
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
Thayer and Sprague
Walter J. Stoessel, Jr.
-Possible role with Administration
-Rogers
Stuckey
-Flanigan's forthcoming conversation with MacGregor
-Burns
-New York
-Georgia
-Management experience
National economy
-Money supply
-Gustave L. Levy's possible note to Burns
-Burns
-Two speeches in New York City
-Calvin Bullock Forum
-Stock exchange
-Ralph D'Annunzio
-New York City speeches
-McCracken
-Connally, November 16, 1971
-George W. Romney
-Burns
-Burns
-Treatment by the President
-Predecessor
-Support
-FRB
-Media
-FRB
-Money supply
Ammidon
-Possible role with Administration
-Japan
-The President's conversation with Connally
Thayer
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Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
-Possible role with Administration
-Kissinger
Stuckey
-Flanigan's conversation with MacGregor
-Party registration
-Congressional district
-Georgia
-Family
Flanigan left at 9:14 am.
Appointments
-Maurice H. Stans
-Peter G. Peterson
-Possible role with administration
-Commerce Department
-Stans
-Tenure in office
-Forthcoming trip to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Tenure in office
-Haldeman's conversation with John N. Mitchell
-1972 election
Mitchell
-Tenure in office
-Richard G. Kleindienst
-Justice Department
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Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
Stans
-Tenure in office
-Mitchell
-Herbert W. Kalmbach
Earl L. Butz
-Confirmation
-Milton R. Young
-Democrats
-George S. McGovern and Hubert H. Humphrey
-Meeting with Herman E. Talmadge
-Young
Confirmations
-Public concern
Commerce Department
-Stans
-Peterson
-Flanigan
Mitchell
-Forthcoming conversation with Haldeman
-Peterson
Commerce Department
-Peterson
-Women
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Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
Clifford M. and Marta L. (Wood) Hardin
-Possible event
-Timing
-Stans
Butz
-Confirmation
-Young
Commerce Department
-Peterson
-Woman
-Possible reaction of businessmen
Women in government
-Supreme Court
-Commerce Department
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
-Labor Department
-The President's Cabinet
-Political impact
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Cabinet and White House Staff
-Foreign trips
-Unknown person’s conversation with Haldeman
-Connally's views
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Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
-1972 election
-Robert H. Finch
-Second term
-John A. Volpe
-Hardin
-Stans
-Finch and Donald H. Rumsfeld
-John H. Ehrlichman and George P. Shultz
-Wives
-Japan
-Kissinger's office
-Foreign policy strategy
-Exceptions
-Japan
-Connally
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-Agenda for forthcoming Cabinet meeting
-Volpe
-Alexander P. Butterfield
-Connally
-Kissinger
-Rogers
-Volpe
-Members' schedules
-Stans
The President’s schedule
-Kissinger
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
Budget
-Continuing resolution
-Allen J. Ellender
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger's possible actions
-Firings
-Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:14 am.
The President's schedule
-Kissinger
Bull left at an unknown time before 9:45 am.
-District of Columbia government, Agency for International Development
[AID], Justice Department
Budget
-Blame
-The President
-Senate Democrats
-Ellender
-Michael J. Mansfield
The President's schedule
-American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO]
convention
-Ehrlichman's view
-Connally
-George Meany
-James R. (“Jimmy”) Hoffa
-Program
-James Suffridge and Victor Riesel
-Meany
-Democrats
-Meany
-Unions
-Ehrlichman
Budget
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Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
-Senate
-Possible public opinion
-Federal employees
-Pay
-Ruling of Comptroller General
-Senate Democrats
-Mansfield
-Ellender
-Motives
-Foreign aid
Lyndon B. Johnson
-Appearance
White House staff
-Leaks
-The Vice President [Spiro T. Agnew]
-J. Edgar Hoover
Watergate
-Daniel L. Schorr
-Federal Bureau of Investigations [FBI] interviews
-[Forename unknown] Stein and Schorr's brother
FBI records
-White House review
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Schorr
-Leaks regarding FBI investigation
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Time
-Relations with Charles W. Colson
-Leaks regarding FBI investigation
-Sam J. Ervin, Jr.’s forthcoming conversation with MacGregor
-Possible appointment
-Russell E. Train committee
-Mary McGrory
Hoover
-Tenure in office
-The Vice President
White House staff
-Contacts with press
Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:14 am.
The President's schedule
-Kissinger
Bull left at an unknown time before 9:45 am.
-Church service
-[Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon’s] views
-Attendees
-Handshaking
-W. Clement Stone’s relative
-Ambassadors
-NATO
-Prisoner of war [POW] wives
-Congressmen
-State dinners
-Rose Mary Woods
-Emilio Garrastazu Medici
-Willy Brandt
-1972
Kissinger entered at 9:45 am.
Budget
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
-Continuing resolution
-Defense Department, foreign aid
-Mansfield
-Voluntarism
-Post office
Connally
-Conversation with Kissinger
-Senate
Budget
-Firings
-Haldeman's forthcoming call to Connally
Haldeman left at 9:50 am
German-American Conference
-Meeting with Kissinger
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Connally
International economy
-Economics
-Connally's views
-Convertibility
-Burns's views
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Connally
-The President's conversation with Georges J.R. Pompidou
-Summits
-Connally's views
-US public
-Japan
-Politics
-Kissinger's recent conversation with Connally
-Connally's trip
Forthcoming Cabinet meeting
-Agenda
-Connally
-Volpe
-Previous trip
-Poland, Romania
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
-Connally
Connally's trip
-International concerns
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-US presence in Asia
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JAPAN
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Connally's trip
-Possible letters
-Lt. Gen. T.N.J. Suharto
-Thailand, Philippines, Japan
-Nations' concerns
-Foreign aid, treaties, Nixon Doctrine
US-PRC contacts
-White House leak
-Chou En-lai's views
-Rogers's possible conversation with Joseph J. Sisco
Connally's trip
-Meyer
-Mrs. Meyer
-Francis J. Galbraith
-Martha Townsley (Fisher) Galbraith
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
The President's possible letters
-Eisaku Sato
-New Zealand and Australia
-Lee Kuan Yew
-Nguyen Van Thieu
-Connally’s view
International economy
-Kissinger's role
-Flanigan's role
-Peterson's role
-Commerce Department
-Flanigan
-Role
-Peterson
-Complexity
-White House
-Kissinger, Connally and George P. Shultz
-Connally
-Kissinger
-Politics
Congress
-Foreign aid bill
-Vote
The President's reading
-Abraham Lincoln
-Winston S. Churchill
Cabinet
-The President's conversation with Connally
-Melvin R. Laird
-Rogers
International economy
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Connally
-The President’s forthcoming trips to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
[USSR] and PRC
-Convertibility
-Pompidou
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
-Gold
-Convertibility
Connally
Vietnam
-Troop withdrawals
-The President's announcement of November 12, 1971
-Newspapers' reaction
-Timing
-Reaction
-Announcements
-Laird
-Infiltration
-Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak's column
-Congress
-Troop withdrawal announcement
Budget
-Continuing resolution
-Kissinger's forthcoming trip
Kissinger's schedule
-Connally
The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 9:45 am and
10:03 am.
[Conversation No. 618-11A]
[See Conversation No. 14-101]
[End of telephone conversation]
Kissinger's forthcoming trip
-Budget
-Continuing resolution
-Foreign aid
-Federal employees
-Possible action
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
The President talked with John B. Connally between 10:03 am and 10:05 am.
[Conversation No. 618-11B]
[See Conversation No. 14-102]
[End of telephone conversation]
Vietnam
-The President's meetings with Josip Broz Tito and Indira Gandhi
-Troop withdrawal
-The President's announcement
-Residual force
-North Vietnamese reaction
-Negotiations
-United Nations [UN]
-USSR
-POWs
International economy
-Connally
-Kissinger's conversation with The Earl of Cromer
-[James] Harold Wilson
-Burns
-Convertibility
-Unknown West German’s views
-Rainer Barzel
-Gold
-France
-Laird
-Kissinger's forthcoming conversation with Connally
-Laird
-Canada
-Negotiations
-Peterson's views
-Undeveloped nations
-Rogers's views
-Latin America
-Strategy
-Europe
-Meeting of Group of Ten
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
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Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
-Connally's trip to Alaska
Vietnam
-Troop withdrawal
-Rogers's views
-Negotiations
-Publicity
-Connally
-Mansfield
-Negotiations
-Publicity
-Timing
-PRC trip
Connally
-Press
-Conversation with Kissinger
Vietnam
-Troop withdrawal
-Rogers and Laird
-Input
-Negotiations
-Le Duc Tho
Kissinger's schedule
-PRC ambassador
-Forthcoming announcement
-Communications
-Peking
-New York
-Paris
-Marshall Green
Pakistan foreign secretary
-Schedule
-Kissinger
-The President
-Possible meeting
-Conversation with Kissinger
-PRC
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
-UN
UN
-USSR and PRC
Cabinet
-Members' foreign trips
-The President's conversation with Haldeman
-Meetings with the President
-Stans
-Forthcoming trip to USSR
-Volpe
-Rogers
-McCracken
-Meetings with leaders
-Kissinger
-Laird, Kissinger and Rogers
-Robert H. Finch, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Shultz and Ehrlichman
-The Vice President [Spiro T. Agnew]
Agnew
-Possible role with administration
-Secretary of State
Kissinger
-New York Times Magazine article
-News summary
-Access to the President
-Vietnam
-The President’s decision making style
Cabinet
-Members' trips
-Volpe
-Finch
-Activities
-Message from Kissinger
-Announcements by the President
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 618-11 (cont.)
The President's schedule
-Foreign visitors
-Pompidou
-Rogers's possible reaction
-Foreign visits
-Rogers, Connally and Laird
Kissinger left at 10:20 am.