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Conversation 618-025

TapeTape 618StartMonday, November 15, 1971 at 12:50 PMEndMonday, November 15, 1971 at 12:57 PMTape start time04:41:22Tape end time04:42:59ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President)Recording deviceOval Office
AudioNARA Description

On November 15, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:50 pm and 12:57 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 618-025 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 618-25

Date: November 15, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:50 pm and 12:57 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President dictated a memorandum for the file.

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[618-025-w001]
[Duration: 1m 30s]

       The President's previous conversation with George E. Allen
            -Harry S Truman
                  -Intelligence
                  -As a politician
                  -Dean G. Acheson
                         -Influence on Harry S. Truman
                         -Marshall Plan
            -Edward J. Flynn and George E. Allen
                  -Meeting with Democratic leaders
                         -Democratic nominee for Vice President in 1944
                               -Potential next President
                               -Henry A. Wallace
                               -Franklin D. Roosevelt's schedule
                                     -Appointments secretary, Watson [first
                                     name unknown]
                                     -Removal of Henry A. Wallace

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Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

I had a fascinating conversation with George Allen in which he reminisced about his relations with Truman.
He said that, quote, Truman really wasn't very smart, that he was a very kind man, and hard, and had said many things publicly in a partisan way that he really didn't mean.
He said that an individual who was intelligent but who got to Truman in the last could usually affect his decisions.
That was the reason that Acheson, who was a very intelligent man, very persuasive, had such enormous influence on policy while he was president.
Acheson had influence which was, for the most part, the Marshall Plan, etc., for the good.
He told Tom, he had Ed Flynn, the other guy in writing, leaders,
all got together and determined that whoever was nominated as vice president in 1944 would be the next president, and that Henry Wallace couldn't be the man.
The way they handled the thing was to control the appointments with Roosevelt through Watson, who was an appointment secretary, so that the only people who saw Roosevelt could talk politics were people
get rid of Walsh.
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