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Nixon & Haldeman on Pay Board and Economic Policy

Monday, November 15, 1971 · 1:16 PM–1:53 PM ET · Oval Office · 57 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Conversation618-028 on Tape 618 (tape position 05:03:17–05:05:29)StartMonday, November 15, 1971 at 1:16 PMEndMonday, November 15, 1971 at 1:53 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 618-028 ↗

President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman discuss the preparation of briefing materials regarding the Pay Board and upcoming meetings. Nixon emphasizes his desire to maintain political independence, explicitly stating that he does not want to feel beholden to the individuals or entities involved. The discussion also touches upon the coordination of legal opinions from John Mitchell and John Dean to support these administrative objectives.

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They'll get me a paper, a little paper, so that I...
I don't need it for two weeks.
It's great.
It's all great.
Get all these things.
I just want to let the fellas know I don't owe them anything, so I don't owe them.
Or if you can't get it done,

On November 15, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 1:53 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 618-028 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 618-28

Date: November 15, 1971
Time: Unknown between 1:16 pm and 1:53 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

     Paper
          -Forthcoming meeting
                -Pay board

     Legal opinion
          -John N. Mitchell
          -John W. Dean III
  • 618-024 12:50 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:50 pm and 12:57 pm.
  • 618-025 12:50 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:50 pm and 12:57 pm.
  • 618-026 12:57 PM · 19 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:57 pm to 1:16 pm.
  • 618-027 1:16 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 1:53 pm.
  • 618-029 1:16 PM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 1:53 pm.
  • 618-030 1:16 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 1:53 pm.
  • 618-031 1:16 PM · 32 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 1:53 pm.
  • 618-032 1:53 PM · 10 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Dr. C. Jackson ("Dan") Grayson, Jr., George H. Boldt, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Stephen B. Bull, White House photographer, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:53 pm to 2:02 pm.

Conversation 618-028, November 15, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/618-028 (accessed October 1, 2026).