{"conversationCode":"618-028","tapeNumber":618,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-618-028","startDateTime":"1971-11-15T18:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-15T18:53:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Nov-1971","startTime":"1:16 PM","endDate":"15-Nov-1971","endTime":"1:53 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On November 15, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:16 pm and 1:53 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 618-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 618-28\n\nDate: November 15, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 1:16 pm and 1:53 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n     Paper\n          -Forthcoming meeting\n                -Pay board\n\n     Legal opinion\n          -John N. Mitchell\n          -John W. Dean III","filename":["618-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"05:03:17","tapeEnd":"05:05:29","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"618-027","nextCode":"618-029","transcript":[{"start":4.84,"end":18.89,"text":"They'll get me a paper, a little paper, so that I..."},{"start":18.91,"end":23.31,"text":"I don't need it for two weeks."},{"start":23.33,"end":23.55,"text":"It's great."},{"start":23.57,"end":23.87,"text":"It's all great."},{"start":23.89,"end":24.8,"text":"Get all these things."},{"start":24.82,"end":27,"text":"I just want to let the fellas know I don't owe them anything, so I don't owe them."},{"start":37.54,"end":54.79,"text":"Or if you can't get it done,"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman discuss the preparation of briefing materials regarding the Pay Board and upcoming meetings. Nixon emphasizes his desire to maintain political independence, explicitly stating that he does not want to feel beholden to the individuals or entities involved. The discussion also touches upon the coordination of legal opinions from John Mitchell and John Dean to support these administrative objectives.","topics":["Pay Board","Economic Policy","Political Strategy","John Mitchell","John Dean","White House Administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T00:56:48.895Z"},"topicSlugs":["pay-board","economic-policy","political-strategy","john-mitchell","john-dean","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":57,"audioFiles":[{"file":"618-028.mp3","bytes":2276620,"durationSec":56.77,"bitrate":320840,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.996Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/618-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/618-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/618/conversation-618-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}