Conversation: 619-028
Prev:  619-027 Next: 619-029Start Date: 16-Nov-1971 12:33 PM
End Date: 16-Nov-1971 1:59 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Eisenhower, Julie Nixon; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); [Unknown person(s)]; Bull, Stephen B.; White House operator; Flanigan, Peter M.; Kissinger, Henry A.; Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:31:58
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:55:24
NARA Description:
On November 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, unknown person(s), Stephen B. Bull, White House operator, Peter M. Flanigan, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:33 pm to 1:59 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 619-028 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 619-28 Date: November 16, 1971 Time: 12:33 pm - 1:59 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with Rose Mary Woods. ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 [Privacy] [Duration: 41s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 ***************************************************************** Julie Nixon Eisenhower -Appearance in Cleveland -Press report -Appearance before Republican women’s group -Harry S. Dent's conversation with Woods ***************************************************************** 32 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 3m 22s ] [The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower at an unknown time between 12:33 and 12:40 pm] [Conversation No. 619-28A] [See Conversation No. 14-131; one item has been withdrawn from the conversation] [End of telephone conversation] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 ***************************************************************** Letter to the President from Larry Smith Memorandum to Woods from Alexander P. Butterfield -Invitations to White House -Sub-cabinet appointees -The President and H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman -Emilio Garrastuzu Medici -Church service Invitations to White House dinners -Administration officials -Cabinet -Butterfield's memo -Rocco C. Sicilano -Woods's efforts -The President's conversations -Woods -Charles W. Colson and Butterfield -Administration officials -Australian dinner 33 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) -Sub-cabinet appointees -Salute to Hollywood -Sue -List of celebrities -Arthur G. (“Art”) Linkletter -Pat Boone -John Wayne -Administration officials -The President's list -Mitchell -John B. Connally Haldeman entered at 12:40 pm. -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew -Forthcoming calls from Woods Connally -Gift for Woods -Visit to Bangkok -Maxine North [?] -Contrasted with William P. Rogers and Melvin R. Laird Woods left at 12:46 pm. Butterfield -Memorandum to Woods -Age -Conversation with the President -The President’s conversation with Woods -Invitations to White House dinners -Administration officials -Memo to Woods -Colson -Woods -List -Functions -Memoranda to Woods -Conversations regarding White House invitations -The President -Medici dinner 34 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) -Haldeman -Possible memorandum from Haldeman Invitations to White House dinners -Colson -Haldeman -Butterfield's memorandum to Woods -Butterfield’s conversation with the President -Medici dinner -Colson Woods -Views regarding White House staff -Butterfield -Working relations with White House staff -Haldeman Invitations to White House dinners -Administration officials Administration officials -Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr. -Tenure in office -People's Republic of China [PRC] visit -Donald H. Rumsfeld's view -John A. Volpe -Previous Cabinet meeting -Presentation Congress -National security issues -Senate Democrats supporting the President on national security -Michael J. Mansfield -North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] -Hatfield-McGovern vote -Mansfield -Vietnam -Withdrawal -Hugh Scott's motion on Cooper-Church Amendment -Stennis Amendment on foreign aid -Foreign Aid Bill 35 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) -James O. Eastland, Sam J. Ervin, Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson, Gale W. McGee, John C. Stennis and John J. Sparkman -James B. Allen and Russell B. Long -Harry F. Byrd, Jr. An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 12:46 pm. Malfunctioning dictaphone The unknown person left at an unknown time before 1:08 pm. Senate Democrats supporting the President on national security -Byrd -Howard W. Cannon -Jackson -Handling -Southerners Jackson -Possible candidacy -Announcement -Timing -Votes -The President's schedule Congress -House Democrats supporting the President on national security -Leaders -Foreign areas -Arms Services -George H. Mahon -The President's schedule -Senators -Summary ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 49s ] 36 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 ***************************************************************** Maurice H. Stans -Tenure in office -Haldeman's conversation with Mitchell, November 15, 1971 -Trip to Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] -Peter G. Peterson -Possible conversations -Haldeman and the President -George P. Shultz's view -The President's schedule John W. Rollins -The President's call, November 15, 1971 -Possible calls -Mitchell and Haldeman ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 38s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 ***************************************************************** Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:46 pm. Unknown man -Meeting with Pierre-Paul Schweitzer -International Monetary Fund [IMF] -The President’s schedule 37 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) Bull left at an unknown time before 1:08 pm. Schweitzer -Meeting with Kissinger -Connally ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6 [Personal Returnable] [Duration: 38s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 6 ***************************************************************** The President's schedule -Connally [?] -Ronald W. Reagan Robert C. Seamans, Jr. -Possible role with administration -Peter M. Flanigan -Undersecretary of Defense -Laird -Frederic V. Malek -Laird -Defense Department -Reorganization -New post NATO -Flanigan -Walter N. Thayer -Mansfield D. Sprague The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:46 and 1:08 pm. 38 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) [Conversation No. 619-28B] [See Conversation No. 14-132] [End of telephone conversation] NATO -George Champion, Jr. -Hoyt Ammidon The President's schedule -Robert J. Dole -Mitchell -American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-CIO] convention The White House operator talked with the President at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 1:08 pm. [Conversation No. 619-28C] [See Conversation No. 14-133] [End of telephone conversation] The President's schedule -AFL-CIO convention -Timing -George Meany -Criticism of the President's foreign policy -PRC -Fidel Castro -Florida -Meany Appointments -Flanigan and Malek -NATO -Laird's Under secretaries -Japan Ambassador -Federal Reserve Board [FRB] 39 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) -Paul W. McCracken's replacement -Shultz's role -Connally's role -NATO -Japan -Thayer -Ammidon -Sprague -Shultz -Conversation with the President -Council of Economic Advisors [CEA] -Arthur F. Burns -Connally -Views regarding unknown Texan -Herbert Stein The President talked with Flanigan between 1:08 and 1:09 pm. [Conversation No. 619-28D] [See Conversation No. 14-134] [End of telephone conversation] NATO -Henry A. Kissinger The President talked with an unknown person [Kissinger ?] at an unknown time between 1:09 and 1:13 pm. [Conversation No. 619-28E] Kissinger’s schedule -Return call [End of telephone conversation] Congress -National issues Congressional Democrats supporting the President on national security -Jackson 40 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) -McGee -Southerners -Mansfield -Carl B. Albert -Mahon -Kissinger's views -The President's schedule -Clark MacGregor -Connally Kissinger entered at 1:13 pm. Appointments -The President's previous conversation with Flanigan -NATO -John J. McCloy The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 1:13 and 1:17 pm. [Conversation No. 619-28F] [See Conversation No. 14-135] [End of telephone conversation] McCloy -Possible role with Administration Appointments -Ammidon -Japan -Connally -New York Trust -Thayer -Connally -Flanigan -Walter J. Stoessel, Jr. -William P. Rogers's views -Sprague -Stoessel 41 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) -Volpe’s view -Graham A. Martin -Volpe's view Volpe -Cabinet report -Meeting with Prime Minister of Poland -Duration Donald McI. Kendall Frank J. Shakespeare Gen. Charles A.J.M. De Gaulle -Meeting with the President The President's schedule -Meetings -Shakespeare -Volpe Shakespeare -Performance in office Yitzhak Rabin -Meeting with Kissinger, November 16, 1971 -Golda Meir's schedule -Appeal for arms -The President -San Clemente Moshe Dayan's schedule -Rogers and Laird The President left at an unknown time before 1:17 pm The President’s schedule -Gold Meir -[Hassan, King of Morocco] [Moulay] Hassan II -Kissinger and Rogers 42 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) The President's schedule -Medici -Azores The President entered at an unknown time after 1:09 pm. Rogers and Laird -The President’s conversation with Connally -The President’s schedule -Ronald L. Ziegler -Volpe -Tenure in office -Forthcoming election The President talked with Flanigan between 1:17 and 1:18 pm. [Conversation No. 619-28G] [See Conversation No. 14-136] Kissinger and Haldeman conferred during the conversation. The President’s schedule [End of telephone conversation] Kissinger's schedule Laird -Forthcoming conversation with Haldeman -Conversations with Kissinger -New York Times story regarding Vietnam troop withdrawal -Source Leaks -Kissinger's staff -Laird -State Department -Defense Department Laird and Rogers 43 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) -Phantoms -Dayan -Possible Israeli negotiations with Egypt Aid to Israel -The President's role -Phantoms -Rogers's possible role -The President's schedule -Meir -Phantoms -USSR -Leonid I. Brezhnev -Interim settlement -State Department -Phantoms Laird -Forthcoming call from Haldeman -New York Times story regarding Vietnam troop withdrawal -Defense Department -Source Cabinet -Rogers's views -John A. Scali -The President's treatment -Dwight D. Eisenhower's treatment -Meetings -Staff system -The President's schedule -Compared to Eisenhower’s -Eisenhower's schedule -Arthur E. Summerfield -John Foster Dulles The President's schedule -Agnew -Eisenhower's schedule -The President -Requests 44 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) Agnew The President's schedule -Jerry Persons -Sherman Adams Agnew’s schedule -Kissinger Reagan -Schedule -Kissinger -The President -Forthcoming conversation with Kissinger -Amchitka nuclear test -Mail -Supreme Court -Scientists -Press Israel -Kissinger’s forthcoming talk with Rabin -The President's schedule -Meir -Dayan -Domestic allies -Interim settlement PRC George H. W. Bush's forthcoming statement -New York -Rogers's calls to Kissinger -The President -Statement on Vietnam -US troop withdrawal -Deadline -Nguyen Van Thieu -Bush's forthcoming statement -Chou En-Lai -Rogers's view 45 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) -Television -Location -USSR -Kissinger's forthcoming conversation -Ambassador in Paris -Statement regarding USSR -Bush's forthcoming statement -Kissinger's schedule -PRC Ambassador in Paris -Le Duc Tho -Forthcoming announcement -PRC Ambassador -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon ‘s schedule -The President’s schedule Appointments -Deputy Secretary of Defense -John S. Foster, Jr. -Laird -Seamans -Stanley R. Resor -Laird's list PRC -Statement regarding Vietnam -US response -Rogers's views -Forthcoming trip -Rogers’s view -Political risks -Statement regarding Vietnam -Bush -Views of other nations -Connally -Thailand -United Nations [UN] speech of November 15, 1971 -Rogers State Department -Views regarding the President's forthcoming trips to the USSR and PRC 46 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) PRC -Communiqué at end of the President's forthcoming trip -US defense commitments -Rogers’s view -The President's speeches -Theme -US differences with PRC -Communiqué at end of the President's forthcoming trip -Statement regarding Vietnam -Preparation of text -Rogers -Chou En-Lai and Mao Tse-Tung Rogers's schedule -Forthcoming trip to the USSR -Haldeman -Advance trip Kissinger's schedule -Forthcoming trip to the USSR -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin -Communiqué Rogers's schedule -USSR -Robert J. McCloskey -Possible result -Negotiations -Dobrynin -Letter PRC -The President's forthcoming trip -Announcement -Possible response -Lin Piao and Army Chief of Staff -USSR Sadruddin Aga Khan -Conversation with the President -Harvard University 47 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) -India-Pakistan ************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 17 [National Security] [Duration: 11s ] INDIA END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 17 ************************************************************************** -Role with UN -Background -Conversation with the President -India-Pakistan -Tone of the President’s comments -Alexander M. Haig, Jr. -Trial of Mujibur Rahman -Possible US action India-Pakistan -Kissinger's conversation with Pakistani foreign secretary -Agha Muhommad Yahya khan -Possible letter from the President -Mujibur Rahman ************************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 20 [National Security] [Duration: 1m 57s ] 48 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) INDIA END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 20 ************************************************************************** Aga Khan -Conversation with the President -Refugees -US aid -Role with UN Vietnam -The President's previous meeting with congressmen -Mansfield compromise -Effect on negotiations -Prisoners of war [POWs] -Gerald R. Ford and Leslie C. Arends -Liberals' views -North Vietnamese military dispositions -South Vietnam -Cambodia -Laos -USSR and PRC aid -North Vietnam -Liberals -Administration's possible response -Mansfield Amendment -Scott -Ford and Arends -Scott -Southern Democrats -Stennis Laird -Presidency -Views on national security policy -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] -Vietnam 49 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) -Conversation with Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak -Vietnamization Vietnam -The President's policy -President’s 1969 conversation with Kissinger -Laird's role -Statements during 1968 campaign -Nomination acceptance speech -Miami -Korea -US arms and aid -Mary McGrory's views -Cambodia -Nixon Doctrine -The President's policy -Troop withdrawals -Anti-war demonstrations -Liberals -Laird -March 1969 -Peace proposals Cabinet -Laird and Rogers -Connally -Leaks -Lyndon B. Johnson -The President's decision-making procedures Vietnam -Troop withdrawal -Rogers's statement to Henry Brandon -Laird -Leak -Negotiations The President's schedule -Meir -Possible trip to the US -Rogers 50 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. 10/06) Conv. No. 619-28 (cont.) -Dayan Kissinger left and an unknown man entered at 1:58 pm. Manolo Sanchez -Schedule Cuff links The President et al., left at 1:59 pm.